RangersIn7

1 hour ago, Phil said:

 

Trading Marner would have fixed that. So would have not re-signing Nylander to 11.5 million per.

 

I just don't think Tavares was ever the problem. He's still not. When they nuke this thing, he's probably going to crawl out of the rubble with the new team on a new deal making less than half of what he does now to be their veteran leader 3C.

Then they’d be out 2 premium players instead of one.

26 minutes ago, Phil said:

 

Nah, Tavares wasn't the problem. Doubling and tripling down on this core was. Marner needed to be traded after "it was 4-1." Nylander probably should have been traded this season.

 

They made their bed. Now they'll lie in it, for a long fucking time.

I don’t disagree that there are other issues

But the lack of depth has been the biggest.

That 11 million on multiple players would really help 

9 minutes ago, Phil said:

 

There's probably a strong argument to be made to this, specifically supported by the evidence they have to buy all their grit. You have to draft those players and have them come up together. Signing multiple Bertuzzis every couple years to shoehorn more physical play into your roster is a recipe for disaster. The Rangers know that all too well.

 

I don't think SJS, Ariz—Utah, and Chicago apply at all. Certainly not Utah and Chicago, who are rebuilding and, at least on paper, have the bones of a successful future in place.

 

The Leafs are a bunch of stars being subsidized by mercenary muscle who are inorganically being paid to care. That shit doesn't work. That said, it's gonna be highly, highly entertaining to watch them nuke themselves this summer.

They’d have been way better served by not signing Tavares years back, and instead putting that money in 2-3 other players that could’ve really helped them and made them deeper. 

Finish these guys tonight!

LGR!

Don’t let up and bury them tonight!

LGR!

On 4/21/2024 at 11:26 PM, Pete said:

You don't get brownie points for blind faith.  

 

He's finally showing why he was drafted number one.

To say “Finally” is unfair.

It took him 3 seasons and a whopping total of just over 200 games to figure it out at the ripe old age of 22. 

27 minutes ago, JJ in VA said:

 

I believe in KK.   Absolutely, a key to our core group.  He's certainly giving effort.   Hitting posts will translate.   KK, Laffy, Cuyle and Matty breakout series.    Jimmy V the 4th line anchor !  Ha, who saw that coming ?    Batting 500, hmmmm  HOF

Kakko is going to be just fine.

Broken record here but… Players are ready when they’re ready. 

Keep the pressure on and beat these guys!

LGR!

Just now, Br4d said:

Caps weren't particularly chippy for a team that is going to have to live on the edge if they want to beat the Rangers.

 

That's a Rempe effect.

They’re also just not too good. 

54 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said:

Then why were the Rangers not a playoff team before he got here? And why did a drafted group of players who never played together in Vegas make the Finals with him?

48 minutes ago, Br4d said:

 

Because podcasts...

Gallant is a mixed bag. 
Does well for a couple of seasons and loses the room and the front office.

Hes a good coach. He’s had success.

Just don’t ever see him winning a Cup. 

Bury these guys and do it quickly!

LGR!

1 hour ago, Pete said:

The president gets credit when gas is cheap and the stock market is good, even though there's nothing that he does that controls either of those things. 

 

That's about the extent I'll give GG "credit". He just happened to be here when things that probably would have happened anyway, happened to happen. 

That’s all I’m giving him credit for as well.

3 minutes ago, Long live the King said:

 

No.  GG played Zib and CK apart for over 300 minutes at 5v5 and Trocheck with so.e combe of CK, Goodrow, Vesey for 200 minutes.

 

Panarin-Trocheck-Laf were together for 866 minutes.  He literally never touched that line.  GG would have shuffled Laf around during a 3 goal in 31 game slump.

There are advantages to line shuffling at times, yes.

But it’s not usually immediate and you have to keep guys together. 

3 hours ago, Pete said:

I Don't really know how much credit he should get. He didn't change any of the lines that Quinn already had any basically just hold the players to go at and play with no plan other than "get pucks deep".

 

Like @siddioussaid, they didn't win because of him, they won despite him. 

 

And frankly, they probably would have been better if he wasn't stifling their creativity and not letting the lines have any continuity. 

 

We have a ton of evidence on record that this dude was absentee. 

If you preside over something successful, you get the credit for it.

Just like you get the blame for failure 

You can still credit the guy for something whilst pointing out his massive shortcomings 

I’ll say this though as my operative point on Gallant:

Good coach. Not a great coach.

High- level. Not a champion.

Won a lot. Ultimately lost.

Some very positive traits. Some very negative ones.

And too many issues with upper management and lack of prep/practice/engagement.

Player’s coach. Not detail oriented. 

He was a mixed bag. 
 

Right at the time. Not in 2 years though.

They knew what they hired.

Its fine.

Move on.

What they experienced under Gallant will actually help them in the long run.

 

4 minutes ago, Br4d said:

You're misunderstanding my position.  It has nothing to do with the current team.  It has everything to do with a coach who got 217 points in back-to-back seasons being the scapegoat for a GM who was in a rush to nowhere and a few vets who definitely thought they were better than they were and played like it.

 

Was GG a great coach?

 

Definitely not.

 

But you can't fire your stars.  You can fire your coach.

Ok.

Well now this group, under 2 coaches, has 150+ wins and just had the best season in Franchise history.

 So… this group has to be pretty good.

And I’d say the guy who helped put it together is pretty good too.

Not sure what the knock is on Drury or what issue you have there or why?

7 minutes ago, Br4d said:

How do you adjust to your best players taking the series off?

 

Do you really think that suddenly making changes to the Rangers plays and play pattern would have done anything when the same guys who starred during the regular season for the Rangers went missing?

 

I think you can make an argument that the Rangers weren't playing all that well despite their record.  They lost the season series to the Devils and then they lost a playoff series to the Devils and they did this based on the talent on the team and how they showed during those games.

What happened in the playoffs last year was a symptom of the things he failed to do for 2 years.

Thats just when it caught up to him.

Despite terrible series from most of their best players, the Devils still needed 7 games.

He had to make enough adjustments to find a way to win 1 game.

 He was unable to do so. 
 

Now do they still have flaws?

Yes.

But they’re better now. And it’s hit me over the head kind of obvious.

Listen to the people who cover the team.

They talk all the time about the night and day difference now.

They practice a lot.

Theyre prepared 

They have a system and structure and while some of the same problems plague them, they’ve fixed or improved upon some as well. 

If you just have no hope for this team and want to say how they have no chance with this group… 2 things then.

Stop watching
Stop posting

Gallant and his approach and the fact that he was an experienced, veteran coach, is what this team needed when he was hired.

He did very well over 2 seasons and the 1 deep playoff run. 
He deserves a lot of credit for that. 

But he had his usual disagreements with his superiors.

And they didn’t practice. They were not prepared. 
He did not engage his players enough.

He had the usual disconnect with his players that he’s had elsewhere. 
He failed to provide structure.

He failed to prepare his guys. 
He failed to make adjustments besides shuffling lines. 
 

And despite his success, those are huge outnesses. And that got him fired.  

25 minutes ago, Br4d said:

 

Do you really think that was coaching, given how the Rangers had played during the regular season?

 

I think it was 4 or 5 key players not playing well and the Rangers having no chance to win as a result.

I think you can go back and rewatch that series and you’ll see a team that needed to make adjustments and adjustments never got made. 
 

Do I also agree that a number of key guys played arguably their worst hockey at that time?

Yes.

Is that on the coaches?

No.

Is the lack of adjustment on the coaches?

Entirely. 
 

Both are true.

Two things can be true about the same thing at the same time. 

15 hours ago, SaveByRichter35 said:

I hate to admit it but I feel like the Isles take this in 7.

I think this series is dangerous for Carolina.

That, and they seem to be everyone’s favorite this year… that doesn’t always bode so well.

Isles could seriously give them a run for their money. 

22 minutes ago, Br4d said:

 

I totally get that.  I bring it up in the current context only because last year we didn't get the production at 5v5 against the Devils and we went home as a result.

That was one issue of many with the Devils.

Almost the entire roster played awful hockey.

36 minutes ago, Br4d said:

If either of the Bread Line or the Bros Line is off we're going home early.  They both need to be bringing their top game to get around the Caps.

 

Why?

 

Because the Caps are a clog it up defensive team and if the top two lines aren't bringing it every game is going to be a struggle to score against them.

12 minutes ago, Pete said:

Every team needs their best players to perform in order to move through the playoffs. This is not specific to the Rangers. 

Every team in the NHL, no matter how deep or talented, is heavily driven by the play they get from their top 4 or 5 forwards, top couple of D, and their starting goalie.

If those guys struggle, you get beat.

That is every team. 

16 minutes ago, RJWantsTheCup said:

ESPN predicts Caps in 7.  

ESPN knows nothing about hockey.

And only slightly more about sports these days.

They’re an entertainment network.

Not a sports network.

 
Chris Russo is their only legitimate sports commentator 

They can lick my sweaty ballsack. 

5 hours ago, Blue Heaven said:

Except for his head and any slight bump can knock him out

And this one is talking about heads and “slight bumps.”

3 minutes ago, siddious said:

He shouldn’t be asked to take anything long and hard.

You just don’t want to give Chytil too much too soon