Jump to content

RodrigueGabriel

Members
 View Profile  See their activity

  • Posts

    4,107

  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won

    30

 Content Type 

Posts posted by RodrigueGabriel

    Rangers-Hurricanes — Round Two General Series Thread

    in New York Rangers

    Posted · Edited by RodrigueGabriel

    28 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said:

     

    I don't want to do that at all. Analytics are not to be used by themselves, but they are one of the better indicators for having success. The only reason you and others want to pretend that analytics don't mean anything at all is because they don't tell you what you want to hear.

    It's not because the analytics don't tell me what I want to hear, it's because they don't seem to be able to explain why the Rangers won the most games in the NHL this season. I think there is a variety of methodologies that can produce huge differences in outcomes - i.e. the CSA-NST discrepancy. So I don't feel like the current state of analytics deserves all the oxygen that it's taking up, because in the end, playoff series are going to be resolved by things that analytics don't and can't actually measure.

    Rangers-Hurricanes — Round Two General Series Thread

    in New York Rangers

    Posted

    7 hours ago, BrooksBurner said:


    I don’t really agree. Even with a slightly better outlook 5v5 since the deadline, the Rangers are still completely outclassed analytically here. Models that favor 5v5 as much as Dom’s does are going to reflect that.

    I think you and Dom and all the other people who want to reduce human desire and competition to an equation are grasping for control of something that is not predictable or quantifiable. A Playoff series like this is more like a prize fight than coming up with the magic determinative sum of analytic parts.

     

    These teams are super close and this series won't be about number of zone entries or shot share or whatever analytic fuck-all. It's going to be about which group of men want it more, about who can take a punch and get back up, who can dig out that last ounce of energy when both teams are exhausted in a 2nd or 3rd overtime. Talent, skill, strategy, technique, and past performance will all be in play, but the outcome will be determined by the ability to seize the moment, endurance, resilience, heart.

     

    Look at Boston, who looked up mid-series having completely lost their game. None of the regular season analytics would tell you shit about why that would happen, because it didn't happen until the heat and pressure conditions of a Playoff series. 

     

    Seems like all of the forecasts revolve on pretty small differences. I'm tired of reading them. Let the fight begin. 

     

     

    • Like 1
    • Keeps it 100 1
    • Believe 1

    2023-24 Reports From the Rink

    in New York Rangers

    Posted

    On 5/2/2024 at 2:23 PM, Scott said:

    All these things were true. But they also had a benefit from that point forward until the cap was introduced.  They had the resources to outspend many. 

     

    This article only mentions a db established in 2000. Cap went in 05-06.  It's also mentions:

     

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/401569-new-york-rangers-led-nhl-in-total-payroll-once-again-in-200910

     

     

     

    There's a bunch of numbers, highest salaries on the team in between these quotes by the year. I didn't want to cut and paste the whole article, but there's some depressing reminders in there.

    Oh yeah, there was that guy who said, "If I had the Rangers payroll, I'd win the Stanley Cup every year." Thanks for the memories, Slats.

    Rangers-Hurricanes — Round Two General Series Thread

    in New York Rangers

    Posted

    I'm still trying to get my mind around the expected goals stuff. How's this for a paradox? NYR played 3 games against CAR this season. In the 1st and 3rd, they were well underwater for 5v5 xGF% (40.22 and 41.70) and in the 2nd they cleared 50% (50.39) according to NST. 

     
    Except they won the 1st and 3rd games 2-1 and 1-0 respectively and lost the 2nd 6-1 (which was during the Rangers' January slump). So, when they had the best xGF%, they got completely blown out, while at a significant xGF% deficit they won 2 gutty defensive slogs (as I remember them) where the two teams were roughly even in high danger chances at 5v5 (8-8 and 10-11).
     
    In the 1st game (11/2), NYR and CAR each had a PPG and Cuylle scored the only other goal at 5v5. Total SOG were 27-26 CAR. In the 3rd (3/12), Fox scored the only goal of the game at 5v5 and the Rangers were outshot 28-24. So it's not like Igor had to stand on his head and make 45 saves in either game.
     
    The Rangers were 5-2 vs COL, CAR and DAL, three of the top five NHL teams in xGF%. That's roughly the same winning% vs that group as the rest of the league. Their 2 best games for 5v5 xGF% - by a fairly wide margin - were the two they lost, by 6-3 and 6-1 margins.
     
    Go figure.
     
    There is something about what makes the Rangers good at winning hockey games that is not captured by these numbers - whether or not xGF% has correlated to success. We'll see if it plays out differently in the Playoffs. 
     
    • Like 1

    2023-24 ECQF #4: Rangers @ Washington Capitals — Break Out the Brooms; It's Cleaning Time!

    in New York Rangers

    Posted

    3 hours ago, RangersLEETCH said:

    I have to admit when I saw Foxy laid out on the ice and holding his leg and not really moving I screamed at the TV set “ohhh FUCK!!!” “What the fuck is going on?” I’m yelling with my family watching then I see the replay and I said “that’s it you mother fuckers want a fight , fuck em, send out Rempe next shift to fuck somebody up! “I don’t care who it is!” I was steaming. As I am sure many if you were too. We cannot allow the Hurricanes to do that! Somebody said to me in a previous post the Rangers never respond when teams take cheap shots at our top players. Anyways (as Andy sipowicz would say NYPD BLUE) Rangers win we move on! 
    LGR!! 

    I watched him get up and start limping towards the bench. By about 2/3 of the way there, he was putting weight on it and I knew that nothing catastrophic had happened.

×
×
  • Create New...