Phil Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Paraphrased from the January 9 edition of 31 Thoughts the podcast: Friedman: "In a perfect world, Lundqvist has one year left on his contract. You assume that's it. Two years from now, it's Georgiev and Shesterkin, right? That's your team." Marek: "But there's three goalies there." Friedman: "Well, that's what I'm saying. In a perfect world, that's what you're doing." Marek: "In a perfect world, the three-goalie system works." Friedman: "Yes." Marek: "In the real world, it doesn't." Friedman: "Well, even [Eric] Comrie last week when I did the piece with him, he talked about how tough it was to have three goalies in Arizona. This is New York. Imagine what that's like with all the media. The other thing is, you have to make sure it works with this kid. He has one start. You never know. He's gonna have his ups and downs, he's gonna have his tough moments. You've got time. I do know of one team — I know they were looking at [backup] goalies — and I said “have you thought about Georgiev,” and they said they don’t think he’s available because he’s in the Rangers long-term plans. We’ll see. I don’t think anybody is untradeable, but I do think the Rangers do look at this with a long-term view.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 This has to make you wonder if Henrik had a change of heart about leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 So Shesty and Georgiev as the starter/backup for years to come? We've seen a trend of young backups leaving the organization to go become starting goalies. I wonder if the same can be said about Georgiev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Makes me think the Shesty callup is "managing out" Lundqvist. He was OK splitting starts. Will he be OK playing 25 games? For how long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 6y x 2m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slobberknocker Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Im a big believer in having a 1 and 1a goalie situation. the days of 70 starts are over imho. However for as much as I love Georgiev, I feel he is more of a 1 rather than a 1a. That being said as it looks like Igor is the real deal and that realistically Hank not going anywhere for 1-1/2 years you really have no choice but to move Georgy. But this is just another case where handing out 8 year no move/trade deals to 32 year olds should be a fireable offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slobberknocker Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Makes me think the Shesty callup is "managing out" Lundqvist. He was OK splitting starts. Will he be OK playing 25 games? For how long? Not arguing but what do you do with Hank then? Can't send him down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Not arguing but what do you do with Hank then? Can't send him down. Three guy rotation maybe. 20 starts Hank, 30 starts Georgie and 30 Shesty? Not ideal by any means. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Not arguing but what do you do with Hank then? Can't send him down.I think they're forcing him into asking him for a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 I think they're forcing him into asking him for a trade. Or retiring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worle Ranger Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 I think they're forcing him into asking him for a trade. I do too. It?s the right move. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Or retiring? This. I can't think he'd be forced into a trade. He may want to wrap it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphinity 2.0 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 And if he doesn't want to? I mean the ball is completely in his court. Plus, it's not like that can say, "If you retire we'll put you on the coaching staff." They already have a goalie coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 "Personal Services" contract to Dolan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 And if he doesn't want to? I mean the ball is completely in his court. Plus, it's not like that can say, "If you retire we'll put you on the coaching staff." They already have a goalie coach. They did with Drury. Or they can buy him out. It saves 3m next season, cost 1.5m the following. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 This has to make you wonder if Henrik had a change of heart about leaving. Hank sitting on the bench listening to IGOR chants has to have some kind of effect on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 I still think Georgiev gets moved at or by the deadline. I just don't see the 3 goalie thing being a legit option. I would be shocked if they took that route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 I still think Georgiev gets moved at or by the deadline. I just don't see the 3 goalie thing being a legit option. I would be shocked if they took that route. It's not a legit option. They have something in mind. Could be protecting Georgie from injury or just letting Hank know his time is up. I dunno what it is, but 3 goalies isn't the plan for the next season and a half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Can?t carry 3 goalies They want Hank to retire or ok a deal. He should ok a deal. His playing time is cut and he has no shot of winning a Cup here in next 18 months. Just as a talking point, Colorado has the cap space and even a 38 year old Lundqvist is an upgrade over Grubauer IMO who has limited playoff experience. I like Grubauer and he?s done well for them and even won a Cup as a backup but I don?t think they win a Cup with him. They?d have to figure out money if Hank agreed and Avs would have to figure out what to do with either Grubauer or Francouz. Again just a talking point but I think there?s some teams out there who would have interest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 I can see one team taking him on and they're in our division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 If the truth was that they were trying to push out Hank, why is he starting tomorrow? Wouldn't it make the most sense then to start Georgiev tomorrow and let Hank sit in the press box for a few weeks rotating Shesh and Georgie? I don't think the organization is willing to do that to him at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 If the truth was that they were trying to push out Hank, why is he starting tomorrow? Wouldn't it make the most sense then to start Georgiev tomorrow and let Hank sit in the press box for a few weeks rotating Shesh and Georgie? I don't think the organization is willing to do that to him at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 I can see one team taking him on and they're in our division. If the truth was that they were trying to push out Hank, why is he starting tomorrow? Wouldn't it make the most sense then to start Georgiev tomorrow and let Hank sit in the press box for a few weeks rotating Shesh and Georgie? I don't think the organization is willing to do that to him at all. I don’t know that they’re “pushing”, but maybe something lower down the ladder than that I don’t think they’re trying to send a message, they have too much respect for him to do that. They’d just have a conversation. But maybe it’s more like, ok, we have these two kids. One is in the minors and dominating. There is an out clause. He’s Russian and excelled over there. Maybe we bring him up and it expedites things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.wiskers Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Lundqvist is in great shape and is no where near retiring but he should know that we won?t be winning a cup anytime soon so I can see him wanting to go to a team that has a chance of winning the cup?-everyone wants to win a cup. Leetch, Messier, Kovalev, Zubov even Graves ended their careers elsewhere. Playing for more than 1 team is not an end all be all thing. Players leave and are always welcomed back and even get their numbers retired and get a player appreciation day and/or get a Job within the organization, etc.. Sent from my iPad using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Lundqvist is in great shape and is no where near retiring but he should know that we won’t be winning a cup anytime soon so I can see him wanting to go to a team that has a chance of winning the cup—-everyone wants to win a cup. Leetch, Messier, Kovalev, Zubov even Graves ended their careers elsewhere. Playing for more than 1 team is not an end all be all thing. Players leave and are always welcomed back and even get their numbers retired and get a player appreciation day and/or get a Job within the organization, etc.. Sent from my iPad using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk This x 100 I get that he loves NY and has a wife and 2 young daughters and relocating sucks. But it would not be a long-term thing. And conceivably with people talking about him possibly playing beyond this contract, he’d likely have to relocate at that point. He’d have options and total control where he went Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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