Gravesy Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 K'Andre scored and was the best player on the ice in his debut for Wisconsin according to this. https://www.blueshirtbanter.com/2018/10/14/17974992/kandre-miller-makes-statement-in-ncaa-debut-wisconsin-rangers-usa-boston-college Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Damn, college kids are small! The ice looks so frickin big lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Damn, college kids are small! The ice looks so frickin big lol I?d guess it?s the size of the ice. 1/2 of that roster is 6ft or taller Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 He's got 2 goals and 3 assists in his first 4 games. Apparently looking like a total stud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodrigueGabriel Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 He's got 2 goals and 3 assists in his first 4 games. Apparently looking like a total stud. If he keeps this up, it becomes more conceivable that he could be one and done with the Badgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Nice. I really liked this pick at the time, but mostly because of the draft show and the montage they did for him, but still. Good for this kid. We need these first and second rounders to bear fruit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 When does the NCAA start their robust 6 game regular season schedule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 When does the NCAA start their robust 6 game regular season schedule? yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giacomin Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 If he keeps this up, it becomes more conceivable that he could be one and done with the Badgers. More likely he gives it 2 years in college, which could be for the best. Then he comes to camp to win a spot. Who knows, but seems like if he leaves after 1, he'll need a year in Hartford anyway. He may need a little time in the A regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodrigueGabriel Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 More likely he gives it 2 years in college, which could be for the best. Then he comes to camp to win a spot. Who knows, but seems like if he leaves after 1, he'll need a year in Hartford anyway. He may need a little time in the A regardless.You're probably right. When I thought more about what he would want to accomplish there, a few variables popped out. He seems to have two sophomore D-men on the depth chart ahead of him, neither of them with his draft pedigree or likely upside. If he can somehow move quickly into the 1D slot and play for a good part of the season, that's a box to check. If he is somehow stuck behind them, it changes the timeline and perhaps even the desirability of being in Madison, 'cause he ain't there for a degree. Wisconsin is currently ranked #14. If they continue to move up the pop charts and have an actual shot at a national championship this year or next, that is experience worth sticking around for, as is, in theory, a second season of Granato tutelage if the Rangers like his progress. The short NCAA season has already been mentioned, but I imagine Miller is already penciled in for at least a couple of amateur or international tournaments. A key metric would be how many actual games he plays this year. A long Frozen Four would certainly help. But I think the original point has some lingering merit, which is that if he absolutely destroys the Big 10 and NCAA this time around, some of those accomplishments will become redundant quickly. Reaching the NHL and a quicker payday are always forces that drive talented young players. But again, Giac, you're probably right. Sure is a nice thing to even be able to speculate about. Sent from my [device_name] using http://Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Just for some context... Mac was the #12 overall, played 3 years at Wisconsin, and then just 7 games in the AHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 You're probably right. When I thought more about what he would want to accomplish there, a few variables popped out. He seems to have two sophomore D-men on the depth chart ahead of him, neither of them with his draft pedigree or likely upside. If he can somehow move quickly into the 1D slot and play for a good part of the season, that's a box to check. If he is somehow stuck behind them, it changes the timeline and perhaps even the desirability of being in Madison, 'cause he ain't there for a degree. Wisconsin is currently ranked #14. If they continue to move up the pop charts and have an actual shot at a national championship this year or next, that is experience worth sticking around for, as is, in theory, a second season of Granato tutelage if the Rangers like his progress. The short NCAA season has already been mentioned, but I imagine Miller is already penciled in for at least a couple of amateur or international tournaments. A key metric would be how many actual games he plays this year. A long Frozen Four would certainly help. But I think the original point has some lingering merit, which is that if he absolutely destroys the Big 10 and NCAA this time around, some of those accomplishments will become redundant quickly. Reaching the NHL and a quicker payday are always forces that drive talented young players. But again, Giac, you're probably right. Sure is a nice thing to even be able to speculate about. Sent from my [device_name] using http://Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Is he WJC eligible this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted October 26, 2018 Author Share Posted October 26, 2018 Is he WJC eligible this year? Yeah. He should make it. He should do at least another season there. He'll have Turcotte and Caufield joining him next season and that should make for an exciting team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 I don?t like rushing players, particularly defensemen who take longer to develop. And a guy like him who started playing late in life (I believe that was his story, correct?) should play at the lower level as much as possible before coming up. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 I don’t like rushing players, particularly defensemen who take longer to develop. And a guy like him who started playing late in life (I believe that was his story, correct?) should play at the lower level as much as possible before coming up. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk I think he used to be a forward, just played D the last 2-3 years IIRC. But your point stands, we shouldn't rush this guy - he has a lot to learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Not sure you can say the ncaa schedule is shorter per say. They have a 8-9 month season. The difference they are training, practicing, and developing during the week and playing games on weekend. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodrigueGabriel Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Was apparently just named NCAA Rookie of the Month by the Hockey Commmissioners Association. Leading rookie Ds in points. Sent from my [device_name] using http://Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 I think he used to be a forward, just played D the last 2-3 years IIRC. But your point stands, we shouldn't rush this guy - he has a lot to learn. Thanks I knew it was something along those lines Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 :tweet: With 4 points tonight, NYR first round pick and defenseman K'Andre Miller is tied for 2nd in Freshman scoring. - Pronman. Dude has 15 points in 16 games. Could absolutely be the steal of the draft if he continues to develop this way. My god, I'm excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 How far away with this kid? Figure anywhere between 2-4 years at Wisconsin? 2020 earliest, 2022 latest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMinutesForNothing Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I've watched him some. He was supposed to be a work in progress from a hockey IQ, standpoint, but he's shown he just gets it. He had the skills but the rest was a question. It doesn't appear to be much of a question anymore. What he's done has been pretty incredible. He's probably had the most impressive performance from anyone in his draft class and now he will likely go be the #1 Dman for the US at WJC in a month. Realistically he could turn pro next season, not sure if that's needed though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 He?s now listed at 6?4 and 205 per Wisconsin Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 No need to rush this kid imo. He's in a good place, learning from an excellent coaching staff who I'm led to believe have been churning out high end NHL D-men for a while. One of the things that has my real giddy about him is the fact Pronman and other scouts said the one question they had about him was whether he could contribute offense. It appears he not only can, but is in fact dominating points wise. I think I need a lie down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giacomin Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Absolutely my #1 pick for 26 and a lot of fans, experts and scouts think the same. We woulda screw up 48 anyway :) His weaknesses are that he is still learning the position, having been a converted forward. That is not a weakness of his doing and he is growing into the position nicely. After that I can't find a serious weakness, everything is improvable. Burns/Buff is a good comparison if he reaches his potential. Good driven kids with strong work ethic are the best bets to achieve their potential. Go US To pile on, I've only seen Wisconsin once this season, but Miller was the perfect pick. We critique the Ranger's drafting, but they made sure they could select this well-regarded prospect with the upside to be an impact player. However, offense is not an issue. [Gravesy check-out the guys at hockeyprospects.com to supplement Pronman.] Simply, the only big question was him becoming a legitimate defensemen, after playing forward for much of his childhood. That is the main reason not to rush him. Last year, he demonstrated he could. Now he is beginning to thrive under the staff in Wisconsin. I'm guessing he plays at least two years there, then if he and the Rangers think he can make the team, he'll make the jump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giacomin Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Guess if he continues his dominance thru the season, plus a strong showing at the WJC, he could decide to leave after one year. I'm just not going to expect it, but content to know the team and player will certainly be talking after the year is over. They will talk and make the appropriate decision. If Miller wants to go back to Madison, then it is probably best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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