Phil Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 The Rangers and Islanders are among the most aggressive teams in pursuit of Jets defenseman Jacob Trouba, The Post has learned, with the Devils also in the chase. Trouba, the 25-year-old impending restricted free agent for whom the Jets are soliciting offers, would slide into the right side of the first pair for either club. But his acquisition would come at a steep cost, both in terms of personnel going the other way in a trade package and the long-term contract Trouba would command. Winnipeg, according to several sources, has yet to give permission to inquiring clubs to speak with Trouba?s agent, Kurt Overhardt, about a contract. One would figure seven years at up to $7.5 million per season for the Michigan native ? who recorded 50 points (8-42) last season, 13th most among defensemen. His 42 assists tied for ninth among blue-liners. The Rangers, of course, own Winnipeg?s first-rounder at 20th overall, as part of the bounty ? Brendan Lemieux, too ? obtained in the lend-lease deal for Kevin Hayes. General manager Jeff Gorton, whom we are told is pushing mighty hard for Trouba, could offer that pick, impending restricted free agent Pavel Buchnevich and, perhaps, Nils Lundkvist to the Jets. That might not be enough, not with Lou Lamoriello lurking ? and, for that matter, Ray Shero, as well. Both the Islanders and Devils are loaded with prospects who might be expendable in a deal for Trouba, who has played six seasons in the NHL out of the University of Michigan following his 2012 ninth-overall selection by the Jets. Question: Does the price become too high for the Rangers if the Jets demand Lias Andersson be included in the package? https://nypost.com/2019/06/15/rangers-rivals-set-to-battle-for-jets-jacob-trouba-at-steep-cost/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 I know trouba is good but am I the only one who doesn?t wanna pay what it will take to get him? Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBrowningPI Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 I'm admittedly not in the same knowledge base as y'all guys to tackle this one. But if this hampers the Panarin quest or signing Kreider, I'd have to say no. I wouldn't be against letting Andersson go either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 I know trouba is good but am I the only one who doesn’t wanna pay what it will take to get him? Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Nope. I'm as worried about the contract cost as the trade cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 One of JDs first moves in St Louis was Pietrangelo. In Columbus, it was acquiring Seth Jones. Can’t trade multiple firsts for him, though. And that contract potential scares me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 That’s... a lot. Admittedly, I don’t know enough about Trouba to say what’s what but two 1st and buch is too much — let alone Anderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 I'd feel way better about making that trade on July 3 if we've completely changed course and are clearly in a "flip the switch" year. This is a deal you make when your team missed the playoffs by 2 points and did so by riding the wave of the future you're expecting to lead the way. This isn't a trade you make when you picked your future anchor 45 minutes ago and almost anyone who is going to be a part of that winning team hasn't played an NHL game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Lundkvist about to be #2 on his SEL team. Andersson is still a 20-year old, #7 pick and should eventually be the ideal quinn middle 6er. Buchnevich might have turned a corner last season... Not the guys you trade now. If other moves are made this summer, indicating they may be a contender, sure. But that’s “old rangers”, and notnwhat JD seems to be preaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 I think, long-term, the greater value is in keeping those 3 assets around as opposed to Trouba. Like Trouba a lot. But I don’t know that he’s a franchise type D, and that’s a stiff price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfrancesa Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 I think, long-term, the greater value is in keeping those 3 assets around as opposed to Trouba. Like Trouba a lot. But I don’t know that he’s a franchise type D, and that’s a stiff price. Agreed. The rangers are set up to enjoy the benefits of having multiple cheap assets contributing at the nhl level for years. I don’t get why they are seemingly linked to every player that flies in the face of that. That is a huge price for trouba and then you have to sign him to 7 years x $7.5. No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Overpayment, no thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 16, 2019 Author Share Posted June 16, 2019 With an extension in place, this framework would be as close to a hockey trade as you'll find made this summer. It's two late firsts (20, Lundkvist) and a top-six forward (Buch) for Trouba plus long-term extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 With an extension in place, this framework would be as close to a hockey trade as you'll find made this summer. It's two late firsts (20, Lundkvist) and a top-six forward (Buch) for Trouba plus long-term extension.That's not a good trade for the Rangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 16, 2019 Author Share Posted June 16, 2019 Why not? Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBrowningPI Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 How bout a straight up Trouba for Hank? Count me in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBrowningPI Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Through in a Vesey for good measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 I’m very conflicted on this. I can’t tell what I think. On one hand I don’t think you know what you’ve got with Lundkvist or the 20th OA. Could be absolutely nothing for all we know. Buch would be the hardest to give up but even he has a ton of question marks and will be relegated to third line with Kakko and Kravstov. Realistically, the jets are bound to strike gold on at least one of them. On the other hand — the inverse of the above is true. We’re bound to strike gold on one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 No thanks on giving up that much on a player no longer cost controlled and about to hit free agency Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 No thanks on giving up that much on a player no longer cost controlled and about to hit free agency Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Agreed. There may not be a player just like this available for free as a UFA this year, but this is the kind of contract you have to give to get a UFA typically without paying anything in terms of players and picks. I understand that Kreider is a little older and not a right handed defenseman, but it is hard for me to see not extending him and then turning around and giving up a rich package for the privilege of signing a guy to the equivalent of UFA terms. Whoever gets Trouba will pay a very dear price. That doesn't make sense for us before we are about to embark on a year with perhaps five or even six rookies on the roster. Better to do this kind of deal next year, after the dust settles a bit, because there is a huge cloud of dust right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 I have some misgivings about giving up those players, but there is certainly an argument as to why it makes sense for the Rangers to pull the trigger on a deal like that. I would question whether that's the sort of deal the Jets are looking for though. I'd imagine they're looking for immediate help on the blue line, given both Trouba and Myers are likely to be off. I highly doubt they're looking for a deal focused on futures and a serviceable middle six winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodrigueGabriel Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 The acceleration of the rebuild has been a little bit illusory, with the advent of Kakko/Hughes and all of the Panarin talk over the first half of the year. But the goal of the process is not to have a bunch of (half?) decent prospects, many playing in Hartford trying to define themselves. At some point, we have to turn that quantity into Cup-worthy quality, while hopefully keeping our best futures. I think the era of actual contention still begins on 10/1/21 and it should last for 5 years, more if we're lucky. A 7-year deal for Trouba cements a proven asset entering his prime that can help define that period and serve as a strong positive influence on Hajek, Rykov, DeAngelo, Miller, Fox, etc in the run-up to it. The next 2 years will be tumultuous, with virtually all of the veteran presence exiting one way or another. I think bringing in a piece now that immediately becomes 1D, but perhaps more importantly leads the reconstruction of the blue line while spanning all those changes to the room is well worth $7.5 per, a couple younger players who have put up mostly question marks thus far - even if they turn out to be good - and #20, which is a promising lottery ticket, but a lottery ticket just the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Rangers haven’t done enough to warrant tradinng away assets, at this point of the rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Why not? Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk2 firsts and a top 6 forward for a 26 year old D who we have to pay top dollar? No thanks. That's old Rangers thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfrancesa Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 And he’s not a 1d. He’s probably more of a second pair guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 About the only trade I?d make is Trouba for shattenkirk Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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