Rangers1994 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 What would a new contract for Braden Schneider look like? Maybe 2-3 years at $3M per year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 39 minutes ago, Rangers1994 said: What would a new contract for Braden Schneider look like? Maybe 2-3 years at $3M per year. I would think somewhere around that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Less. I'll say 2x2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Yeah, $2 Million per would represent over a 100% raise annually. Of all the deals we have to concentrate on this summer, this one should be the easiest one to hammer out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 2-3 years....$2.5 million 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 9 minutes ago, Ozzy said: 2-3 years....$2.5 million Yahtzee. Winning for all. Get rid of Trouba and his replace costs a third of his annual salary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuddyInTheMiddle Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Why would we not want to go with a McDonaugh-esque 4.5 million X 6-7 year deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 10 hours ago, BrooksBurner said: Less. I'll say 2x2. This. He has no arbitration rights. It's gonna be like 1.825x2 or something like that. Not to price is right you, but because Drury has the hammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 8 minutes ago, MuddyInTheMiddle said: Why would we not want to go with a McDonaugh-esque 4.5 million X 6-7 year deal? Because they can't afford it yet. They have Shesterkin, Lafrenière, and Miller on the horizon. Need to make sure you free up the dead weight before you commit. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 8 minutes ago, MuddyInTheMiddle said: Why would we not want to go with a McDonaugh-esque 4.5 million X 6-7 year deal? Time is a great thing to have, Muddy. We can kick the can down the road with Schneider while we navagate our Salary Cap shitstorm that's on it's way after next season. I don't think we need to buy UFA years until we HAVE TO. Then sure we can go nuts after the Trouba $$$ and Panarin $$$ are on the way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuddyInTheMiddle Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 4 minutes ago, Ozzy said: Time is a great thing to have, Muddy. We can kick the can down the road with Schneider while we navagate our Salary Cap shitstorm that's on it's way after next season. I don't think we need to buy UFA years until we HAVE TO. Then sure we can go nuts after the Trouba $$$ and Panarin $$$ are on the way out. To yours and Phil's points, they could absolutely come up with that extra 2 million per year with a Kaako and/or Trouba trade. Isolating the Trouba contract(at an assumed 2 million salary retained), they would save 1.5 million dollars on my proposed 4.5 million X 6-7 years and have their second pair RD locked up for the forseeable future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 4 minutes ago, MuddyInTheMiddle said: To yours and Phil's points, they could absolutely come up with that extra 2 million per year with a Kaako and/or Trouba trade. Isolating the Trouba contract(at an assumed 2 million salary retained), they would save 1.5 million dollars on my proposed 4.5 million X 6-7 years and have their second pair RD locked up for the forseeable future. Right, but that requires that that deal happen first. You can't put the cart before the horse here. Schneider is great, but he has no arbitration rights. This deal is likely the the last to get done because there's absolutely no pressure to make it happen sooner. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 28 minutes ago, Phil said: This. He has no arbitration rights. It's gonna be like 1.825x2 or something like that. Not to price is right you, but because Drury has the hammer. Yup. If you look at bridge conteacts for young defensemen like Schneider, typically the ones getting mid 2s-3 either scored points or played 20 minutes a night in the top 4. Lindgren is a prime example and got 3x3 because he was on the top pair playing 20 a night. Schneider’s a 3rd pairing guy with 15 min a night and few points. He’s getting the raw end while Drury probably pinches pennies to max out the team how he can. I will say though, if it were my choice and Trouba was either moving out or relegated to 3rd pairing, I’d be getting out ahead of it and giving Schneider a long term deal knowing he’s top 4. Cheap for 2 years is nice. Affordable for the next 6 years is better. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuddyInTheMiddle Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 38 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: Yup. If you look at bridge conteacts for young defensemen like Schneider, typically the ones getting mid 2s-3 either scored points or played 20 minutes a night in the top 4. Lindgren is a prime example and got 3x3 because he was on the top pair playing 20 a night. Schneider’s a 3rd pairing guy with 15 min a night and few points. He’s getting the raw end while Drury probably pinches pennies to max out the team how he can. I will say though, if it were my choice and Trouba was either moving out or relegated to 3rd pairing, I’d be getting out ahead of it and giving Schneider a long term deal knowing he’s top 4. Cheap for 2 years is nice. Affordable for the next 6 years is better. 100% here on that sentiment. Not to relitigate the Buchnevich trade which essentially turned into a salary dump; it's that mindset of not pursuing quality and affordability that has created a perpetual hole on the 1st line RW. When you think of how many assets have been wasted on stopgaps over the last 3 trade deadlines(Vatrano, Taransenko, Kane, and Roslovic) the smart play would have been locking him into the same contract that St. Louis did. That would have given Drury the flexibility to trade him away if/when someone else was ready to step into the role for cheaper which would have added assets rather than draining them. There is always a market for affordability and quality. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 1 hour ago, BrooksBurner said: Yup. If you look at bridge conteacts for young defensemen like Schneider, typically the ones getting mid 2s-3 either scored points or played 20 minutes a night in the top 4. Lindgren is a prime example and got 3x3 because he was on the top pair playing 20 a night. Schneider’s a 3rd pairing guy with 15 min a night and few points. He’s getting the raw end while Drury probably pinches pennies to max out the team how he can. I will say though, if it were my choice and Trouba was either moving out or relegated to 3rd pairing, I’d be getting out ahead of it and giving Schneider a long term deal knowing he’s top 4. Cheap for 2 years is nice. Affordable for the next 6 years is better. I agree, but Trouba isn't gone yet. My outlook likely changes if and when he is. Until then, hammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 i had a dream few nights ago that Drury traded Schneider at the draft. I was crying. I dont trust Drury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 1 hour ago, Albatrosss said: i had a dream few nights ago that Drury traded Schneider at the draft. I was crying. I dont trust Drury Let’s hope you mistook it for Key, and the return was Chychrun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 I love when folks pine for players from other teams. It's just warms my heart knowing that the same people will be complaining about that player within 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 26 minutes ago, Pete said: I love when folks pine for players from other teams. It's just warms my heart knowing that the same people will be complaining about that player within 6 months. Why you gotta say that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 27 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: Why you gotta say that You're right, my bad. I just said it because it happens so consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 3 hours ago, BrooksBurner said: Let’s hope you mistook it for Key, and the return was Chychrun No and the return was a draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 3 hours ago, BrooksBurner said: Why you gotta say that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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