RichieNextel305 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 (edited) FULL TRADE: Edited March 8 by RichieNextel305 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Hopefully @Dunny has Vinni Lettieri's phone number! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Come on I wanna see what this unbeatable deal was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 30 minutes ago, Scott said: Hopefully @Dunny has Vinni Lettieri's phone number! I doubt his agent even has his phone number Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 minutes ago, Dunny said: I doubt his agent even has his phone number His Mom doesn't have a phone? That's cruel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 Seems soft….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 Lots of conditions on the conditional picks. Trying to find a tweet that directly explains it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 I love you Mr. Drury! Thank you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Feels like a trade where everyone loses. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Weird trade for PIttsburgh. I would consider Bunting a negative value with his contract and poor play this year. That's a contract Carolina most certainly wanted to get out of. On top of that, a combination of mid-prospects, and not even a 1st round pick (or at least a guaranteed one). Pitts got hosed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 I wish I could be happy about it but it's Carolina who benefitted. They'd steam roll us right now in a 7 game set, and the only chance that wouldn't happen is Igor Shesterkin. Sorry, that's just the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: I wish I could be happy about it but it's Carolina who benefitted. They'd steam roll us right now in a 7 game set, and the only chance that wouldn't happen is Igor Shesterkin. Sorry, that's just the truth. Nah. You normally skew negative towards this team, so truth for you is different than most of us. I'm not at all confident that JG will produce outside of Pittsburgh. Add on top of that, I'm pretty sure he's going to resign there. And I'm pretty sure Carolina doesn't get out of the second round anyway, regardless of if we play them at any point in the playoffs or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 Pens fans are not happy. Carolina got better today. They are going to be a handful. Its going to take work to get out of the East. All of the top teams are going to be tough outs. That includes us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 minutes ago, Pete said: Nah. You normally skew negative towards this team, so truth for you is different than most of us. I'm not at all confident that JG will produce outside of Pittsburgh. Add on top of that, I'm pretty sure he's going to resign there. And I'm pretty sure Carolina doesn't get out of the second round anyway, regardless of if we play them at any point in the playoffs or not. "most of us"? We had to read you be a negative nancy for two years with Gallant, and I supported them taking a puncher's chance. Our sentiments swapped places, but only because you thought it was purely a coaching issue. I think you're right to lack confidence in Guentzel. I do too. But I only lack confidence he's that 35-40 goal impact away from Crosby. I still think the odds are high he's that 25 goal type aggressive, pesky type player, which I think will fit right in with the Canes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 13 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: "most of us"? We had to read you be a negative nancy for two years with Gallant, and I supported them taking a puncher's chance. Our sentiments swapped places, but only because you thought it was purely a coaching issue. I think you're right to lack confidence in Guentzel. I do too. But I only lack confidence he's that 35-40 goal impact away from Crosby. I still think the odds are high he's that 25 goal type aggressive, pesky type player, which I think will fit right in with the Canes. There's dozens of reasons I listed already about why this team is different than Gallants teams. I'm not gonna relist them. Point is this isn't the end of the world. One player doesn't make Carolina some type of powerhouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 (edited) Found a tweet containing the conditions of the picks. So basically, that “1st Rounder” is only a 1st if Carolina wins the East. Otherwise, it’s a 2nd. And they’ll only receive the 5th if they win the Cup. So in return for Guentzel, they’re not even locked into a 1st. If they get eliminated before the Finals, they will have gotten Bunting, 3 “okay” prospects from what I’m reading and a 2nd? Not a good job by Dubas IMO. At least not on the condition of that draft pick. How you don’t walk out with a sure fire #1 out of that is beyond me. Even if the pick is super late, it’s still the principle. Edited March 8 by RichieNextel305 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 42 minutes ago, Pete said: There's dozens of reasons I listed already about why this team is different than Gallants teams. I'm not gonna relist them. Point is this isn't the end of the world. One player doesn't make Carolina some type of powerhouse. The thing I will say regarding this is that Carolina over the last several years has missed having that guy who can get you a goal. While Aho hasn’t been brutal in the playoffs, Svechnikov has shrunk in those moments. Having Guentzel gives them a guy who plays their game and gets to the front and really generate and finish chances, which is something they’ve struggled with in the playoffs in the past. So this does cure one of their major ails heading into a playoff run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Seems like everyone got much better xcept Zibby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 20 minutes ago, RichieNextel305 said: The thing I will say regarding this is that Carolina over the last several years has missed having that guy who can get you a goal. While Aho hasn’t been brutal in the playoffs, Svechnikov has shrunk in those moments. Having Guentzel gives them a guy who plays their game and gets to the front and really generate and finish chances, which is something they’ve struggled with in the playoffs in the past. So this does cure one of their major ails heading into a playoff run. Guentzel outside Pittsburgh is an unknown. Sometimes the best move is the one you don't make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 5 minutes ago, Albatrosss said: Seems like everyone got much better xcept Zibby You seem to have gotten much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Just now, Pete said: You seem to have gotten much worse. Its age, bro. Im not as sharp as i used to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 1 minute ago, Pete said: Guentzel outside Pittsburgh is an unknown. Sometimes the best move is the one you don't make. Stop repeating what i say and make it yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 3 minutes ago, Pete said: Guentzel outside Pittsburgh is an unknown. Sometimes the best move is the one you don't make. I was on the fence on Guentzel, but not because of my doubts of him outside of Pittsburgh. I was more concerned with the cost, the premium we would have to pay being a bitter rival and the fact that if we don’t win the Cup, this could be a decision that haunts us for years. Imagine us getting dry humped in the 1st Round by the Islanders, Guentzel walks and we have to watch Othmann or Kakko turn into a star in Pittsburgh with that late-1st turning into a 40-goal scoring 1st liner for them for the next 20 years? I know we all like to think best case scenario (Guentzel comes in, goes nuts, team gels and wins the Cup) but also have to think worst case too. In the end, I was almost at the point where if it happened and it involved Kakko, I might be okay with it for reasons I said in other threads as far as then maybe having enough space to retain Guentzel on an extension. But I never really got the sense that he was going to end up here. I think he would have been a really nice fit though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 (edited) So Pitt basically went quantity over quality. Not that I really care for Guentzel, I feel like we could’ve somehow matched that without giving up Kakko, Othman, Perrault. Dubas is the Gettleman of hockey Edited March 8 by Vodka Drunkenski 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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