Keirik Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 41 minutes ago, Pete said: On the power play... At even strength... https://theathletic.com/5144384/2023/12/18/alex-ovechkin-nhl-scoring-analysis?source=user-shared-article I doubt losing weight helps with any of that. The guy has been playing at 6-3 235 for some time. You don't just lose it off of 40 goal year without outside factors. Well, there isn't any one exact thing that is responsible for the end all be all of Ovechkin's decline. It's not like the NHL waited 19 years to figure out how to defend him. Of course losing certain guys hurts for various reasons but he's still getting tons shots, he's scored 50 in years where his pal Bsckstrom played half a season (recently), and he's still playing top minutes. Hes easier to focus on for sure but age waits for no man and at some point many athletes that are aging need drastic changes to maintain certain standards. Ovechkin is no different. When you are half a second slower, there are huge consequences in the NHL. There isn't just one factor that commands this change. Personally, I don't think he's done as much as he needs some serious tweaks. He looks noticeably slower. I think he will adjust though eventually. Every argument of saying teammates aren't moving the puck enough had the counter of Ovis feet and movement are slower to be ready for passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Keirik said: Well, there isn't any one exact thing that is responsible for the end all be all of Ovechkin's decline. It's not like the NHL waited 19 years to figure out how to defend him. Of course losing certain guys hurts for various reasons but he's still getting tons shots, he's scored 50 in years where his pal Bsckstrom played half a season (recently), and he's still playing top minutes. Hes easier to focus on for sure but age waits for no man and at some point many athletes that are aging need drastic changes to maintain certain standards. Ovechkin is no different. When you are half a second slower, there are huge consequences in the NHL. There isn't just one factor that commands this change. Personally, I don't think he's done as much as he needs some serious tweaks. He looks noticeably slower. I think he will adjust though eventually. Every argument of saying teammates aren't moving the puck enough had the counter of Ovis feet and movement are slower to be ready for passes. I didn't say anything about Backstrom so I don't know why you keep repeating that he scored goals last year without Backstrom. He's not the only reason, the overall quality of the team around him declining is the biggest factor. Ovi could lose 20 lb and that's not going to change that the team stinks. He's still tied for the team lead in scoring with Dylan Strome both on pace for about 50 points seasons. This guy's been scoring the same goal for 5 years. The league didn't just catch on this season. They can just do a better job defending it because no one else can score. The whole "he doesn't get as many passes because he's not fast enough to receive them" is just a hard no. It's not that they are not passing to him, it's that they're passing less, period. Their passes are down to everybody, not just Ovi. Edited December 29, 2023 by Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Pete said: I didn't say anything about Backstrom so I don't know why you keep repeating that he scored goals last year without Backstrom. He's not the only reason, the overall quality of the team around him declining is the biggest factor. Ovi could lose 20 lb and that's not going to change that the team stinks. He's still tied for the team lead in scoring with Dylan Strome both on pace for about 50 points seasons. This guy's been scoring the same goal for 5 years. The league didn't just catch on this season. They can just do a better job defending it because no one else can score. The whole "he doesn't get as many passes because he's not fast enough to receive them" is just a hard no. It's not that they are not passing to him, it's that they're passing less, period. Their passes are down to everybody, not just Ovi. Alright, you're entitled to your own opinion. I brought up Backstrom because he has been his center for 1105 games in the league. I never said you broguht him up. I was mentioning players he played with. There are an entire litany of NHLers that have hard drops based on age andconditioning assoiated with it. Washington isn't a good team really but we aren't talking about a bottom dweller. They have one less point than the Maple Leafs'. Stinks is a bit overdone. Playing above their heads? Sure. If we are going to bring up his 50 point pace, we can't ignore the team's 95 or so point pace too. This isn't a bottom league dweller. But we are spinning wheels here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Vintage Ovi blast from his office https://www.thescore.com/s/26077960 Cmon big man!!! Break out of the funk!! The league is better when Ovi is better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Reminds me of Jagr right before the Rangers got him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Ovie is buzzing, got the Caps back into the playoff race. 15 goals in the last 21 games. 50 away from Gretzky. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted March 21 Author Share Posted March 21 Must've been able to get some caine now that Kuznetsov isn't hogging it all 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Someone plugged his controller back in. I still loved that gift lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Ovi is the man. We are the same age and I've loved watching him grow up in the league and be a monster. Really hope he keeps it up and gets that record in the next couple years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 On 3/21/2024 at 12:33 PM, jsm7302 said: Ovi is the man. The man? Or just Putin's bitch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 1 hour ago, Sod16 said: The man? Or just Putin's bitch? You can tell by his face and hair that this picture of Ovi was definitely taken like 3 days ago 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 36 minutes ago, SaveByRichter35 said: You can tell by his face and hair that this picture of Ovi was definitely taken like 3 days ago Okay, check out the photo he uses on his instagram account, like, today... https://www.instagram.com/aleksandrovechkinofficial/?hl=en Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 How about who gives a shit? Not everything has to be about politics. 1 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 4 hours ago, Pete said: Not everything has to be about politics. It doesn't, that's why Ovie didn't have to lead his instagram account with a photo of him sucking up to Putin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 9 minutes ago, Sod16 said: It doesn't, that's why Ovie didn't have to lead his instagram account with a photo of him sucking up to Putin. You forgot the "who gives a shit" part of the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Love seeing Ovi come on at the end here. He ain't done! If he pots 30, that'll be crazy considering the first 2/3 of his season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 He's still not what he once was, that's for sure. But, I love the finish to the year he's having. It was so weird basically seeing him be a total non factor most of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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