Kick save and a beauty Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 31 points and leading the entire league after 19 games... Who woulda thunk? Doing that after starting off 2-2 and after missing both Fox and Chytil for a stretch of games. If you are like me I am just waiting for the other shoe to drop. What banana peels do posters here worry about? (my own list in no particular order) Presidents trophies do not translate into Stanley cups with much regularity. Chytil is one head shot away from being a former NHL player. Quick reverts back to his norm over the last few seasons. Laffy's fast start is actually smoke and mirrors and not actually evidence of him "taking the next step" And I am actually beginning to run out of stuff. If you had asked me a few weeks ago I would have not been too confident in Bonino or Wheeler but both have been better lately. Team defense does not really go away once you have it and right now our team defense is as good as I can remember. What other boogey men are out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty9 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Chytil health concerns me Kakko Is also a big concern or big disappointment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 23 minutes ago, lefty9 said: Chytil health concerns me Kakko Is also a big concern or big disappointment Same for me. Kakko has been....really, really bad. I'm almost expecting him to be traded at this point. If he goes somewhere else and does well, then fine. I get the impression that just maybe it's not going to happen for him here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 9 hours ago, Kick save and a beauty said: 31 points and leading the entire league after 19 games... Who woulda thunk? Doing that after starting off 2-2 and after missing both Fox and Chytil for a stretch of games. If you are like me I am just waiting for the other shoe to drop. What banana peels do posters here worry about? (my own list in no particular order) Presidents trophies do not translate into Stanley cups with much regularity. Chytil is one head shot away from being a former NHL player. Quick reverts back to his norm over the last few seasons. Laffy's fast start is actually smoke and mirrors and not actually evidence of him "taking the next step" And I am actually beginning to run out of stuff. If you had asked me a few weeks ago I would have not been too confident in Bonino or Wheeler but both have been better lately. Team defense does not really go away once you have it and right now our team defense is as good as I can remember. What other boogey men are out there? Rangers won the President's in 94 ,and won it Chytil may not even have a spot here come the TDL Quick has never been better and we have Uncle Benny to fix anything that breaks Laffy is becoming an NHL player...no going back now! ....Next! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 27 minutes ago, lefty9 said: Chytil health concerns me Kakko Is also a big concern or big disappointment If Kakko is our biggest worry, we have no worries, Lefty! He'll come around....hang tough my man!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I'm honestly not worried about anything at this point. I want to see a non-Lafreniere RW show more consistency on offense - Wheeler may be answering that question as he settles in, and Kakko may work his way back when Chytil returns to the lineup. There's good depth at most positions, there's no fear of injury on this team if we've worked through Fox and Chytil as well as we have, there's some things here and there that need to be tinkered with, but nothing worrisome. I worry that Drury will see the season we're having and think to swing for the fences instead of directly addressing the real needs (which I believe to be a steady #6 and, if possible, another Bonino-ish guy). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 5v5 scoring still stinks. They're 24th in the leauge in 5v5 goals (37) and seventh in PP goals for (17). Combine that with a shooting percentage in the high twenties for Kreider and Lafreniere and in the mid-teens for Trocheck and Panarin, and what that tells me is that this luck will probably run out. That's really my only worry. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 11 hours ago, Kick save and a beauty said: 31 points and leading the entire league after 19 games... Who woulda thunk? Doing that after starting off 2-2 and after missing both Fox and Chytil for a stretch of games. If you are like me I am just waiting for the other shoe to drop. What banana peels do posters here worry about? (my own list in no particular order) Presidents trophies do not translate into Stanley cups with much regularity. Chytil is one head shot away from being a former NHL player. Quick reverts back to his norm over the last few seasons. Laffy's fast start is actually smoke and mirrors and not actually evidence of him "taking the next step" And I am actually beginning to run out of stuff. If you had asked me a few weeks ago I would have not been too confident in Bonino or Wheeler but both have been better lately. Team defense does not really go away once you have it and right now our team defense is as good as I can remember. What other boogey men are out there? Just to address the bold - It's been 11 years since the Presidents Trophy winner has won the cup. If you will, the success rate has gone from 8/26, or around 31%, to 8/36, or around 22%. It's actually been brutal for the winners - no team has gone out of the second round since we did it in 2015, multiple teams have lost confusingly and heartbreakingly - the CBJ sweep of Tampa, the Panthers reverse sweep of the Bruins, the Caps being unable to figure out the Penguins twice over. That's still far, far better odds than any other individual seed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Not worried about anything. They're playing injured and at about 75%. There are some players who are hot right now who will cool off, and some players who are cold who will heat up. That's a hockey season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, Phil said: 5v5 scoring still stinks. They're 24th in the leauge in 5v5 goals (37) and seventh in PP goals for (17). Combine that with a shooting percentage in the high twenties for Kreider and Lafreniere and in the mid-teens for Trocheck and Panarin, and what that tells me is that this luck will probably run out. That's really my only worry. There's a semi-flipside argument against this that their shooting percent as a team is probably going to regress up to the mean as players not named Kreider and Lafreniere find the scoresheet with more regularity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I'm actually worried I may run out of leftovers for tonight's game....that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I’m worried because after 18 games this chubby has not subsided. I should probably consult a doctor, right? but in all seriousness.. 1) top 6 depth worries me. Even with chytil back, he is a streaky player. I’d like to see them add a top 6 center/Rw. Wheeler may be looking better but at his age I don’t see him playing his best hockey after a grueling 82 game season. this plays into the 5v5 scoring too there needs to be more consistency among the top forwards. Right now Panarin was hot. Then Kreider. Hopefully Zib is next. I’d like to see another guy or two get hot at the same time to add another dimension to the scoring. 2) not so much a team thing but a player thing.. it’s the elephant in the room and I say that hesitantly because an elephant might actually be better than kakko at this point on ice. Guys quickly approaching total bust territory. Hope you guys are right about him waking up when Chytil returns but I fear his success with Chytil may be the result of playing with Chytil and not actually him being better. 3) this one is pure conjecture but injuries. They seem to be getting hurt a lot more this season than previous seasons. I guess it comes with the territory of you know.. actually practicing and playing hard but never the less. We have already lost both of our goalies, top d man and a top 6 center and we’re not even 20 games in yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 37 minutes ago, Phil said: 5v5 scoring still stinks. They're 24th in the leauge in 5v5 goals (37) and seventh in PP goals for (17). Combine that with a shooting percentage in the high twenties for Kreider and Lafreniere and in the mid-teens for Trocheck and Panarin, and what that tells me is that this luck will probably run out. That's really my only worry. Over the last 3 weeks (8 games) they have 20 5v5 goals. That's tied for 12th, 3 back from top 5. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kick save and a beauty Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 I will add another worry in time for tonight's game. We seem to play our worst games against otherwise weaker opposition and the Sabres seem to fit that description. Oh well, the mark of a top team is how consistently they handle business against these types of teams so in that sense it is a good test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 hour ago, siddious said: I’m worried because after 18 games this chubby has not subsided. I should probably consult a doctor, right? but in all seriousness.. 1) top 6 depth worries me. Even with chytil back, he is a streaky player. I’d like to see them add a top 6 center/Rw. Wheeler may be looking better but at his age I don’t see him playing his best hockey after a grueling 82 game season. this plays into the 5v5 scoring too there needs to be more consistency among the top forwards. Right now Panarin was hot. Then Kreider. Hopefully Zib is next. I’d like to see another guy or two get hot at the same time to add another dimension to the scoring. 2) not so much a team thing but a player thing.. it’s the elephant in the room and I say that hesitantly because an elephant might actually be better than kakko at this point on ice. Guys quickly approaching total bust territory. Hope you guys are right about him waking up when Chytil returns but I fear his success with Chytil may be the result of playing with Chytil and not actually him being better. 3) this one is pure conjecture but injuries. They seem to be getting hurt a lot more this season than previous seasons. I guess it comes with the territory of you know.. actually practicing and playing hard but never the less. We have already lost both of our goalies, top d man and a top 6 center and we’re not even 20 games in yet. Pete, RJ, @RJWantsTheCup and I were throwing around the name Blake Coleman, but I'm not sure how or if he fits in cap-wise....maybe a deadline deal. But I would entertain that idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I’m curious as to how they handle a deep valley when and if it comes, vs this very high peak they are now in. We will see. Losing Fox, Igor, Quick, Chytil… they handled all of that well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Kick save and a beauty said: I will add another worry in time for tonight's game. We seem to play our worst games against otherwise weaker opposition and the Sabres seem to fit that description. Oh well, the mark of a top team is how consistently they handle business against these types of teams so in that sense it is a good test. They are seeing Buffalo without Tage Thompson. Huge advantage. But yes… potentially a trap type game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I'm not too concerned about "trap games" any longer. Laviolette won't let that happen. If we're going to lose games, and we will....I really believe it won't be due to lack of effort. More likely it will be failure to execute. I can see a stinker every once in a great while (like the Nashville game), but for the most part I think we'll see what we saw in Dallas. That was a hard fought game between 2 good teams, where we had our chances to win and simply couldn't put it away. I still think if Kreider scores that goal early in the 3rd on that breakaway, we take that one too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Slumps will happen, but I don't see a deep one happening with this coach and current group. We're almost in December and this team has really only had two, maybe three stinkers so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 20 minutes ago, Ozzy said: I'm not too concerned about "trap games" any longer. Laviolette won't let that happen. If we're going to lose games, and we will....I really believe it won't be due to lack of effort. More likely it will be failure to execute. I can see a stinker every once in a great while (like the Nashville game), but for the most part I think we'll see what we saw in Dallas. That was a hard fought game between 2 good teams, where we had our chances to win and simply couldn't put it away. I still think if Kreider scores that goal early in the 3rd on that breakaway, we take that one too! Me neither. If they lose a November game to Buffalo or whoever, it’s not a catastrophe… even if they play terribly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, RangersIn7 said: Me neither. If they lose a November game to Buffalo or whoever, it’s not a catastrophe… even if they play terribly. I agree, 7....I just don't think they will "play terribly" all too often. The system(s) we've employed to forecheck and roll the offense through is designed to limit our playing poorly. "failure to execute the plan" is more or less what I think we'll see. Shit like missing excessive open shots, pinching in with nobody home on D, turnovers in the NZ and blue lines....stupid crap like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ozzy said: I agree, 7....I just don't think they will "play terribly" all too often. The system(s) we've employed to forecheck and roll the offense through is designed to limit our playing poorly. "failure to execute the plan" is more or less what I think we'll see. Shit like missing excessive open shots, pinching in with nobody home on D, turnovers in the NZ and blue lines....stupid crap like that. I don’t either. Though over 82, they, like basically every other team ever, they’ll certainly have some “burn the tape” games. They’ll have a game or two where a great or hit goalie beats them Or a great player does the same. It’s part of things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Financial stability. I think about homelessness a lot more than the roman empire. Happiness and whatever it means to "follow your passion." Physical safety. Oh about the team? Something about the right wing or something, I guess. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Ozzy said: Pete, RJ, @RJWantsTheCup and I were throwing around the name Blake Coleman, but I'm not sure how or if he fits in cap-wise....maybe a deadline deal. But I would entertain that idea. I think Drury not only learned his lesson but also the opportunity to go for multiple shiny things at the deadline is unlikely again so yes give me guys that fill a role. I have no problem with trochek as 2c if we get an equally as good 3c. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 43 minutes ago, RangersIn7 said: I’m curious as to how they handle a deep valley when and if it comes, vs this very high peak they are now in. We will see. Losing Fox, Igor, Quick, Chytil… they handled all of that well. Even the last 2 seasons under Gallant they said the right things and did the right things during tough times. Or at least it seemed like they wanted to. I actually really like the confidence this team has to know even if they suck its more of an anomaly than anything else. Confidence, talent and a good system/coach makes this team extremely dangerous. I should have also said anything that “scares” me about this team isn’t a glaring hole but an area that can be improved on. This is a legit team as far as I’m concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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