Valriera Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Title, but this ultimately is just a showcase for how absolutely terrible that decision was, and it was at the time it was made too. This is not the mcdonagh trade, or the buchnevich trade, or the deangelo situation. We literally waived Brendan smith to pay nemeth four times as much to not dress for games. Worst management decision in a very very long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Hindsight is 20/20. Wasn't too long ago everyone hated the Smith signing and he was in Hartford because he was garbage. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 We waived Smith in 2018 no? We didn’t waive him to sign Nemeth. It was 3 seasons earlier. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Not saying they are related in that way. More so that GMs don't have a crystal ball and role players have ebbs and flows in performance. Smith only dressed in 45 regular seasons games. He's playing like 12 minutes a night in the playoffs. I don't think swapping Nemeth for Smith makes a difference for the Rangers here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 If smith played the way he did the other night, on a consistent basis as a ranger - he would still be a ranger. But he didn’t. He’s been scratched a chunk of this season for Carolina too if I remember correctly it’s not like he went on to have a fabulous career. We have to stop doing this anytime a former ranger has success. the rangers replacing him with hot garbage is a separate issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Smith should NOT be in NY. That talk is silly. Nemeth is completely separate and has nothing to do with smith. smith still sucks. The problem being this team is full of pussies, he knows it. You don’t deserve to win if Brendan Smith is the X factor. That simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karan Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Whatever man, you win some, you lose some. GMs rarely get them all perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 It's infuriating that he should be getting regular minutes for a first place team, let alone causing problems for us in the playoffs. This is a guy who was sent to the minors and only kept around because his contract was not moveable. For a long period thereafter, he was deemed unsuitable as a 3rd unit defenseman and was inserted on a bad 4th line as a forward. Finally, he got spot duty as a D man until his contract was mercifully over. And now we have to deal with him playing pretty well against us in the playoffs. As if he has any right to an axe to grind with us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Smith and Fast, when you saw what Carolina gave them, mind boggling why they were allowed to walk. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, Pete said: Smith and Fast, when you saw what Carolina gave them, mind boggling why they were allowed to walk. This. It should bother us that Smith and Fast combined make $300K more than Nemeth and we somehow conned ourselves out of that level of cap efficiency 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 I don't understand how they could not sign Fast at 1.5 per for three years. It looked ridiculous then and still does now. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 20 hours ago, Long live the King said: Hindsight is 20/20. Wasn't too long ago everyone hated the Smith signing and he was in Hartford because he was garbage. Sure but he grew into a trusted seventh defenseman and was the guy to fight Wilson after Panarin. If they were moving on, fine, but they did so to sign Nemeth. There's no squaring that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 The Smith in NY story is a funny one. "two 2nds is an overpayment for him" "Wow he had a really good playoffs, we should sign him" "Wow, that was an overpayment" "Holy shit, what's up with this fat bastard??" "Well, he's not as useless as he used to be" "Nice, he fought Wilson." "He's a meeh player, don't really care if he's here or not next season" "WE MISS SMIIITH" Serviceable player that stands up for his teammates. Not a good hockey player by any means and we have enough "hard to play against, but also hard to watch" players. Couldn't care less about Smith. Fast stings a little bit, but that's years ago now and he's a bottom 6'er. Fuck Smith and fuck Carolina. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 I know he had a shorty the other night that basically won the game for Carolina, and him vs Nemeth, I’d take Smith. But, he plays 12 minutes a night. It’s only really a loss in the context of Nemeth. Otherwise no one would really care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Phil said: Sure but he grew into a trusted seventh defenseman and was the guy to fight Wilson after Panarin. If they were moving on, fine, but they did so to sign Nemeth. There's no squaring that. Okay, but no one expected Nemeth to have this rough of a year. With COVID and the complicated pregnancy I can cut Nemeth slack. For all we know Nemeth will rebound next year just like Smith did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, Long live the King said: Okay, but no one expected Nemeth to have this rough of a year. With COVID and the complicated pregnancy I can cut Nemeth slack. For all we know Nemeth will rebound next year just like Smith did. For Arizona, maybe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 I think there's too much roster "traffic" on defense for Nemeth to stick around after this season. We have guys coming up, and I don't think he's a solution to anything going forward. I was wrong about Nemeth. I thought he would be a stable compliment to Schneider. ...Turns out he's been more of a detriment, unfortunately. I'm glad his situation has improved and he's back to normal, somewhat....but yeah, I think he's going to be dealt for some cap relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 He also sucks and gets paid way too much money to suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arty Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 17 hours ago, Sod16 said: I don't understand how they could not sign Fast at 1.5 per for three years. It looked ridiculous then and still does now. Panarin had his best season with him on the wing played great D, dug pucks and some scoring prowess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 8 hours ago, Long live the King said: Okay, but no one expected Nemeth to have this rough of a year. With COVID and the complicated pregnancy I can cut Nemeth slack. For all we know Nemeth will rebound next year just like Smith did. While this is true, Nemeth was never worth that contract or trade protection. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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