Blue Heaven Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Josi 9 points Pionk 8 points (Former NYR) DeAngelo 8 points (Former NYR) Fox 8 points (NYR) Hedman 8 points Shattenkirk 8 points (Former NYR) Quite a list of top 6 defensemen in the league so far this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karan Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Blue Heaven said: Josi 9 points Pionk 8 points (Former NYR) DeAngelo 8 points (Former NYR) Fox 8 points (NYR) Hedman 8 points Shattenkirk 8 points (Former NYR) Quite a list of top 6 defensemen in the league so far this season The only one worth having at this point right now would be Pionk. Edited October 30, 2021 by Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 I’d still gladly swap pionk back for Trouba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 1 hour ago, siddious said: I’d still gladly swap pionk back for Trouba Swap him back for Trouba and then trade him straight up for ADA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, CCCP said: Swap him back for Trouba and then trade him straight up for ADA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 "Tell me Jeff Gorton should have been fired without telling me Jeff Gorton should have been fired" 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 4 hours ago, Pete said: Its a tremendous idea. Everyone knows it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 The Rangers need a Trouba. Hence the contract. Shattenkirk - Pionk - ADA would be so bad on the right side of the D. Shesterkins stats would look like georgievs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 22 minutes ago, josh said: The Rangers need a Trouba. Hence the contract. Shattenkirk - Pionk - ADA would be so bad on the right side of the D. Shesterkins stats would look like georgievs. Exactly. I don't know why anyone is bringing up any of these guys. We have a Norris Trophy winner and a Trouba locked in on the right side. The guys being talked about would be on the third pair here with no PP time, not producing and being the defensive liabilities we know they are...well maybe not Pionk but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 It's not about having them playing here, it's about what they got in return, or, what it cost to dispose of them. They managed to functionally turn Girardi, McDonagh, Shattenkirk, Pionk, and Deangelo in to tens of millions in (annual) cap penalties, the opportunity to grossly overpay Jacob Trouba, and Nils Lundqvist. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Pete said: Exactly. I don't know why anyone is bringing up any of these guys. We have a Norris Trophy winner and a Trouba locked in on the right side. The guys being talked about would be on the third pair here with no PP time, not producing and being the defensive liabilities we know they are...well maybe not Pionk but still. At this point just to fuck with you…lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, CCCP said: At this point just to fuck with you…lol You're the only one who's that obsessed with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 18 minutes ago, Dunny said: It's not about having them playing here, it's about what they got in return, or, what it cost to dispose of them. They managed to functionally turn Girardi, McDonagh, Shattenkirk, Pionk, and Deangelo in to tens of millions in (annual) cap penalties, the opportunity to grossly overpay Jacob Trouba, and Nils Lundqvist. But who cares? What'd we miss out on? More picks? More prospects? Lots of talent being blocked by an MVP candidate, 40 goal Center, the #1 and #2 overall, a Norris Trophy winner...Every team has these kinds of issues. You think Carolina is happy with the 1st they paid for Skjei and happy with the 2 second rounders for Fox? You think Edmonton is happy with Strome for Spooner? And there were maybe 5 people here who didn't want Trouba...everyone else was jizzing over him and not wanting to pay Pionk. What were they gonna turn Shattenkirk into after his shit show performance here? Some of this stuff is sensationalism and the rest is reductive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, Pete said: But who cares? What'd we miss out on? More picks? More prospects? Lots of talent being blocked by an MVP candidate, 40 goal Center, the #1 and #2 overall, a Norris Trophy winner...Every team has these kinds of issues. You think Carolina is happy with the 1st they paid for Skjei and happy with the 2 second rounders for Fox? You think Edmonton is happy with Strome for Spooner? And there were maybe 5 people here who didn't want Trouba...everyone else was jizzing over him and not wanting to pay Pionk. What were they gonna turn Shattenkirk into after his shit show performance here? Some of this stuff is sensationalism and the rest is reductive. All those teams did better after those trades. Rangers haven't made the playoffs. Again. Poor asset management. JT, McDonagh, Avery, maybe even Strome... gone for pretty much nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Pete said: You're the only one who's that obsessed with me. Its called love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 On 10/31/2021 at 10:57 AM, josh said: All those teams did better after those trades. Rangers haven't made the playoffs. Again. Poor asset management. JT, McDonagh, Avery, maybe even Strome... gone for pretty much nothing. Maybe so, but objectively not because of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMinutesForNothing Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Shatty has 10 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Ducks 3-4-3 with 9 points. Rangers are 6-2-1 with 13 points. Once again, PPP and PP/TOI that he wouldn't be getting in NY. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Pete said: Ducks 3-4-3 with 9 points. Rangers are 6-2-1 with 13 points. Once again, PPP and PP/TOI that he wouldn't be getting in NY. It's like we forgot how awful he was when he was here too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Pete said: Ducks 3-4-3 with 9 points. Rangers are 6-2-1 with 13 points. Once again, PPP and PP/TOI that he wouldn't be getting in NY. But imagine how good our pp4 would be if we had all the pp specialists! think of the matchups they'd get! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, Long live the King said: But imagine how good our pp4 would be if we had all the pp specialists! think of the matchups they'd get! And so many right handed shots they could put out there at the same time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tonybologna Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 At least we've still got the best one of the four Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Come on this guy is unforgettable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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