Mercogliano Rangers, Shesterkin "Getting Close' on Long-Term Deal Worth $5.75–6 Million Per Year

[Phil]

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[Valriera]

i guess that is one piece to the puzzle, fair value for a starting goalie

[Cash or Czech]

I wonder if we're going long-term, it would make sense if we do. Lock in the goaltender position for years.

[BlairBettsBlocksEverything]

I was playing around with capfriendly roster builder figuring out an Eichel trade and needed to sign Igor. I had him 6 years 6 Mil. I think that would be a very fair deal here

[BrooksBurner]

I'd like to see 7x6M. Lock him in

[ThirtyONE]

I’m guessing 5 x 5.8.

 

Anything under 6 would be surprising. Larry was pretty sure it was gonna be more than 6

[Ozzy]

I was guessing 6 years/$5.5 million....Either way, it should be a good deal for Shesty...he's an important piece.

[Phil]

I’m guessing 5 x 5.8.

 

Anything under 6 would be surprising. Larry was pretty sure it was gonna be more than 6

 

Price is Right. 5.9x6.

[Keirik]

1 dollar!

[josh]

5.85 x 6

[BrooksBurner]

What's the deal with Shesterin's RFA status? When is he eligible to be a UFA? I'm having a hard time figuring out how many UFA years we'd be buying at 6 or 7 years.

 

If I use CapFriendly ArmChair GM, it still has him as an RFA after 5 or 6 year extensions...at 30-31 years old. That can't be right can it?

[LindG1000]

What's the deal with Shesterin's RFA status? When is he eligible to be a UFA? I'm having a hard time figuring out how many UFA years we'd be buying at 6 or 7 years.

 

If I use CapFriendly ArmChair GM, it still has him as an RFA after 5 or 6 year extensions...at 30-31 years old. That can't be right can it?

 

I believe that he'd be subject to the same general provisions as Panarin was. So, assuming I'm right, Shesterkin would have been eligible to be a UFA at age 27, or in 2 years.

 

A five year deal buys 3 years of UFA, in that case.

[Cash or Czech]

What's the deal with Shesterin's RFA status? When is he eligible to be a UFA? I'm having a hard time figuring out how many UFA years we'd be buying at 6 or 7 years.

 

If I use CapFriendly ArmChair GM, it still has him as an RFA after 5 or 6 year extensions...at 30-31 years old. That can't be right can it?

 

Shesterkin has 2 years of RFA status left.

 

https://www.capfriendly.com/faq#ufa

 

A player becomes a free agent when their contract expires on July 1 after the last League Year of their contract. Any player who meets the following requirements becomes an unrestricted free agent (UFA):

Is 27 years of age on June 30 of the contract expiry year

Has seven (7) Accrued Seasons where an Accrued Season is earned when the player was on the clubs active roster for 40 Regular Season games (30 if the player is a goaltender). Games missed due to a hockey related injury will count towards an accrued season in the season of the injury, plus one additional season after the injury.

Meets the requirements for Group 6 UFA Status (See below)

An unrestricted free agent is eligible to sign a contract with any club as of noon ET on July 1 after the last League Year of their contract

 

Birthday is December 30th, so he'll be 27 two seasons.

[BrooksBurner]

Shesterkin has 2 years of RFA status left.

 

https://www.capfriendly.com/faq#ufa

 

 

 

Birthday is December 30th, so he'll be 27 two seasons.

 

He won't have 7 accrued seasons though. He only has one right now (this past season). Is this an either/or situation then? Must be. I guess that's how some guys hit UFA before 27.

[LindG1000]

He won't have 7 accrued seasons though. He only has one right now (this past season). Is this an either/or situation then?

 

Yeah, it's one or the other. "Is 27" or "has 7 accrued seasons"

[BrooksBurner]

Yeah, it's one or the other. "Is 27" or "has 7 accrued seasons"

 

Yeah, I'd be giving Shesterkin as many years as I can then. Maybe even 8 years...lock him up until 33. That covers all of his prime years. 6-6.5M for that is nothing, if he'll take it. I know there's some durability concerns here, but at that number there's money left there to have a good backup.

[LindG1000]

Yeah, I'd be giving Shesterkin as many years as I can then. Maybe even 8 years...lock him up until 33. That covers all of his prime years. 6-6.5M for that is nothing, if he'll take it. I know there's some durability concerns here, but at that number there's money left there to have a good backup.

 

Yeah, I'm not really opposed to that. My read on the salary cap balance is that you want to spend ~10% of your total cap on goaltending (~55-60% on forwards, and 30-35% on D), so him and Georgiev or Kinkaid or Lundqvist combining for under 8 is just fine.

[Keirik]

If we managed to lock him up under 6m x 5 years it really eases a few things. I’m just still a little leery about potential injury problems. I can’t tell yet if he’s the type that fights through nagging little issues or is the type that needs constant maintenance days off

[RangersIn7]

Yeah, I'd be giving Shesterkin as many years as I can then. Maybe even 8 years...lock him up until 33. That covers all of his prime years. 6-6.5M for that is nothing, if he'll take it. I know there's some durability concerns here, but at that number there's money left there to have a good backup.

 

I think that too.

 

Lock him up for as long as possible.

7-8 years at $6 million or below looks awesome.

[Sharpshooter]

I kind of wondered watching him play this past season if he really fully recovered from that car accident he got into. I remember he suffered some rib injuries which can't be easy for a goaltender to manage if it was nagging.

[Phil]

Yeah, I'd be giving Shesterkin as many years as I can then. Maybe even 8 years...lock him up until 33. That covers all of his prime years. 6-6.5M for that is nothing, if he'll take it. I know there's some durability concerns here, but at that number there's money left there to have a good backup.

 

More years = more UFA years = higher AAV, not lower. You're effectively asking him to forego free agency entirely whereas a six-year deal takes him to 31, giving him a genuine shot to hit the market at least once in his career.

[BrooksBurner]

More years = more UFA years = higher AAV, not lower. You're effectively asking him to forego free agency entirely whereas a six-year deal takes him to 31, giving him a genuine shot to hit the market at least once in his career.

 

Correct. You want to give him 5.9 over 6 years. I'd be happy to go to 6.5 to lock in 8.

[Phil]

Correct. You want to give him 5.9 over 6 years. I'd be happy to go to 6.5 to lock in 8.

 

At 8, I think he's looking at $7–7.5 million per. You're asking him to give up two more (critical) years of UFA. That's gotta bear out financially over the life of the deal. Don't look at the year-to-year difference, calculate the cumulative difference.

[BrooksBurner]

At 8, I think he's looking at $7–7.5 million per. You're asking him to give up two more (critical) years of UFA. That's gotta bear out financially over the life of the deal. Don't look at the year-to-year difference, calculate the cumulative difference.

 

I'd go up to 7M. An extra million or so per year doesn't break our back as much compared to being in a situation where we are renegotiating another long term contract at 31. I don't think anyone wants another Hank contract carrying a goalie to 38 years old.

[Phil]

I'd go up to 7M. An extra million or so per year doesn't break our back as much compared to being in a situation where we are renegotiating another long term contract at 31. I don't think anyone wants another Hank contract carrying a goalie to 38 years old.

 

Right, but the player may want that.