Phil Posted March 10, 2020 Author Share Posted March 10, 2020 If he got a one-year arbitration award and followed this up with 70 points, he's getting $8 million minimum on a long-term extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 If he got a one-year arbitration award and followed this up with 70 points, he's getting $8 million minimum on a long-term extension. I was thinking if he duplicates this season. so around 60+ points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 What if he only scores 30 points next season ...goes -20, and plays the same type of unreliable defense? Just a thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Imo no way he takes 5M on a long term deal. I mean the kid held out when he had zero leverage so I suspect he's going to get all he can going forward. He's an overly confident kid too so my guess is there's not going to be much "give" on his part, only take. IF he continues to earn it he has that right. I would be surprised if he's here in 3-4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 What if he only scores 30 points next season ...goes -20, and plays the same type of unreliable defense? Just a thought... you can run him over with your corvette and blame Harlequinn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 If he got a one-year arbitration award and followed this up with 70 points, he's getting $8 million minimum on a long-term extension. Does that normally happen? From 900k to 8 million after the first full season? Even if it was his 2nd, I don't see it happening. Not enough time served to be awarded that leap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 This is just the business side of the game, Dude man. We can agree to disagree on ADA's game, and that's fine. You have all the reason in the world to believe that's he's a game breaking player. He's having one hell of a season too, I agree 100%. I just see it a little different, that's all; I see a talented guy who's had a great season this year, but lacks in many areas to which I, as a fan, would like to see him improve in before the team goes and commits a long term, big money deal to....that's all. As far as trading him; That depends on a lot of factors...considering he goes to arbitration after this season: How does he play next season? Does he improve his defense? Can he improve his being prone to turnovers? How much does he demand? How many years does he want? Who is behind him in the pipeline? What can we get in return for him if we do deal him? Are we in the playoffs come the deadline? Are we buyers? Are we sellers? If DeAngelo can make progress as a defenseman, I'm cool and the gang with keeping him and giving him the moon, Dude. Guys like Nicklas Lidstrom don't grow on trees, I get it :rofl: Let's see what goes down before we go pulling another "Skjei". Hopefully we learned something from that! :thumbs: I hear ya. I just think it's the tip of the iceberg with this kid. You can see the natural talent level when he's carrying the puck and where he sends his passes when in the zone. It's way above average and that talent alone makes up for his defensive short comings. He's shown this ability since the day they got him. With an actual opportunity, these are the results. This kid just keeps getting better and I think his skills will absolutely shine Inna playoff environment. Look at what guys like Karlsson and Krug do for their teams when they are in the playoffs. They make shit happen by drawing attention. Offensive D men are a luxury and this kid can only add more offensive elements to a top heavy team. I'm just scared he will take those aggressive penalties he seems to take when he's amped up. If they make the playoffs, I think you'll come around on this kid soon enough. He's got gamer written all over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 I hear ya. I just think it's the tip of the iceberg with this kid. You can see the natural talent level when he's carrying the puck and where he sends his passes when in the zone. It's way above average and that talent alone makes up for his defensive short comings. He's shown this ability since the day they got him. With an actual opportunity, these are the results. This kid just keeps getting better and I think his skills will absolutely shine Inna playoff environment. Look at what guys like Karlsson and Krug do for their teams when they are in the playoffs. They make shit happen by drawing attention. Offensive D men are a luxury and this kid can only add more offensive elements to a top heavy team. I'm just scared he will take those aggressive penalties he seems to take when he's amped up. If they make the playoffs, I think you'll come around on this kid soon enough. He's got gamer written all over him. No one would love it more than me. I'd really like to see him progress, Dude! I suppose the angle I'm taking here is "I wanna see them win because of him, and not in spite of him". But I'm with ya man!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 you can run him over with your corvette and blame Harlequinn I wouldn't put a dent in that puppy for a 30 point player!! :rofl: Maybe I'd hit Marchand though!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 I think the path is clear. 2 year arb deal and see what he does when he's not in a contract year. After that you pay him what he's worth. Play Russian Roulette with the Russian Meddler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 I think the path is clear. 2 year arb deal and see what he does when he's not in a contract year. After that you pay him what he's worth. Play Russian Roulette with the Russian Meddler. Yup. That's the route I'd go. Arb due to lack of favorable comparables + light NHL resume (despite the success he's found this year). Learn from Skjei. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Yup. That's the route I'd go. Arb due to lack of favorable comparables + light NHL resume (despite the success he's found this year). Learn from Skjei. I don't think that is learning from Skjei. Skjei was coming off back to back seasons of regression after a good rookie year. DeAngelo is coming off back to back seasons of progression. Also better than Skjei ever was. The Rangers incorrectly bet on Skjei despite regression. Arbitration would risk incorrectly not betting on DeAngelo despite progression. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 . The Rangers incorrectly bet on Skjei despite regression. Arbitration would risk incorrectly not betting on DeAngelo despite progression. That was perfectly said IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Yup. That's the route I'd go. Arb due to lack of favorable comparables + light NHL resume (despite the success he's found this year). Learn from Skjei.Yea. You really have to go arb to get the 2 year deal you want. Otherwise you have to go 1 year (been there) or long term and buy UFA years (not going there yet). It's a shame they're paying Trouba so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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