MickeyT Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Starting to come around in this, especially since we got a first and salary relief from Skjei deal. Number is right in the sweet spot to avoid scrutiny during the slumps, which is fair. Listening to league wide takes, no one thinks he'll finish this deal as a Ranger. I felt better after watching NHL live last night too. The Skjei trade made this a lot more palatable. I'm still 285 off the tee and can get a boner. I'm OK. That's a great combo, and daily double!!!! :rofl: Haha that’s funny. Im awful at golf so you got me there Golf??? What the hell is that??? I feel like I haven't played since Christ was a kid around here, with this shitty weather... ...Matter of fact, the last two balls I hit was when I stepped on a rake on my lawn in October!!! :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slobberknocker Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Name one player that got moved at 29 or we let walk as a UFA and we sat there 4 years later and said "Wish we still had him" Now name the guys we signed at 29 or 30 and let me know how those deals turned out. how'd the captain do at age 33 for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 how'd the captain do at age 33 for us? Messier? Are we really going back to 1994 for use cases? It's 2020, dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTheo Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 After 2023/2024 season, its a NTC, I suspect a modified NTC, so he can be traded, that makes the term much more bearable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 how'd the captain do at age 33 for us? Messier? Are we really going back to 1994 for use cases? It's 2020, dude. Messier is a HOF talent As established, those guys often times hold value and produce at or near elite levels into mid-30’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty9 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Name one player that got moved at 29 or we let walk as a UFA and we sat there 4 years later and said "Wish we still had him" Now name the guys we signed at 29 or 30 and let me know how those deals turned out.I don't remember a having forward we wanted to buy out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 I don't remember a having forward we wanted to buy out They bought out the last year of Drury Then he retired a week later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty9 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 They bought out the last year of Drury Then he retired a week later Ok,I didn't they had bug out back then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRangers723 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Fair deal all around. Kreider took less which I felt he would. The last couple years of the contract don?t have NMC clause which is good. I mean I don?t think he is suddenly gonna break down like some feel but either way it was a fair deal for both sides like JD and Gorton said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 I don't remember a having forward we wanted to buy outRichards? We traded Callahan for this exact reason (NTC). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Richards? We traded Callahan for this exact reason (NTC). I somehow forgot about Richards and Cally I don’t understand why so many want to ignore the fact that non-elite, non-superstar players, decline in their early 30’s And why they want to ignore that while Kreider will likely be very good for 3-4 years, history says that after that his skills and production will diminish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRangers723 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 You can?t compare Kreider to Richards and Cally. Kreider is a physical freak and although I liked both those other players their game wasn?t based on that. Also Cally blocked a shitload of shots in his career which I?m sure broke him down even quicker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 You can’t compare Kreider to Richards and Cally. Kreider is a physical freak and although I liked both those other players their game wasn’t based on that. Also Cally blocked a shitload of shots in his career which I’m sure broke him down even quicker Differences in their game notwithstanding, in terms of what they are as players, they exist on basically the same level. Dead horse beating, which I have a habit of, but all players in the good to very good category. All got their contracts age 29ish to 31ish All backfired. Im happy Kreider is here. Just don’t love the term on his contract, and there are real reasons based on historical data not to love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Differences in their game notwithstanding, in terms of what they are as players, they exist on basically the same level. Dead horse beating, which I have a habit of, but all players in the good to very good category. All got their contracts age 29ish to 31ish All backfired. Im happy Kreider is here. Just don’t love the term on his contract, and there are real reasons based on historical data not to love it. Also, Eric Lindros was a physical freak. His body broke down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty9 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Also, Eric Lindros was a physical freak. His body broke down.different game back in the other century Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Also, Eric Lindros was a physical freak. His body broke down. And the always forgotten Jason Allison. Absolute monster. The problem with being that level of freak is that the strategy for slowing that guy down is often times hitting that guy hard and often, and taking a cheap shot should the opportunity present itself. That takes a toll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 And the always forgotten Jason Allison. Absolute monster. The problem with being that level of freak is that the strategy for slowing that guy down is often times hitting that guy hard and often, and taking a cheap shot should the opportunity present itself. That takes a toll Wow, blast from the past. Heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Also, Eric Lindros was a physical freak. His body broke down. Fortunately, CK is not carrying the puck up the middle with his head down, and Scott Stevens is not waiting for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Name one player that got moved at 29 or we let walk as a UFA and we sat there 4 years later and said "Wish we still had him" Now name the guys we signed at 29 or 30 and let me know how those deals turned out. This, and reasons for my concern. Along with, i don?t think his trade value can get any higher Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty9 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Richards? We traded Callahan for this exact reason (NTC). Richards that's a good one,but cally doesn't count,we got rid of him just in time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Wow, blast from the past. Heh. He was a legit point per game player for 5 seasons on not great teams in the best defensive era in the sport’s history. Big. Skilled. Fast Really hard to play against. Got hacked, slashed, etc. all the time because of that It’s different now for sure. But that shit still goes on, albeit to a lesser degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 This, and reasons for my concern. Along with, i don’t think his trade value can get any higher Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk It bothers me a little they didn’t cash the chip in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 He was a legit point per game player for 5 seasons on not great teams in the best defensive era in the sport’s history. Big. Skilled. Fast Really hard to play against. Got hacked, slashed, etc. all the time because of that It’s different now for sure. But that shit still goes on, albeit to a lesser degree. Playoff hockey!!! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Richards that's a good one,but cally doesn't count,we got rid of him just in time They saw the handwriting on the wall with him. Tampa handed him the bag, got 1 great season out of him, and then he was a shell. By year 3 of his deal he was a bottom-6 making nearly $6 million per. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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