newyorker4ever Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 I don't mind this deal at all. I mean it would be nice if it was 1 year less but the money is right and makes the 7 years feel better. The biggest thing for me is not breaking up the chemistry this team has by getting rid of one of their biggest leaders in Kreider. This team has a very good chance of being good/great for a long time and trading Kreider could of hurt that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRangers723 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Conversely, I'm 37 and can barely bend over to tie my shoes. Sorry to hear that Dunny. A lot of it is luck too. Hope you are doing well man!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Sorry to hear that Dunny. A lot of it is luck too. Hope you are doing well man!!! I'm still 285 off the tee and can get a boner. I'm OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRangers723 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 I'm still 285 off the tee and can get a boner. I'm OK. Haha that’s funny. Im awful at golf so you got me there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 All the data: Pro NHL forwards generally peak at 27/28 and then decline. BSBH: I don't buy it, the college whippersnappers home on break take it easy on me during pickup. Sounds legit. Sign everyone you like til they're 42. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Get rid of everybody at 28. That'll work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Conversely, I'm 37 and can barely bend over to tie my shoes. LOL Im 43, Blew out my back last Sunday TYING MY SHOES. Bed ridden most of last week (explains my higher than usual activity here). I see Kreider being as useful as Marleau is now, and he's how old now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 LOL Im 43, Blew out my back last Sunday TYING MY SHOES. Bed ridden most of last week (explains my higher than usual activity here). I see Kreider being as useful as Marleau is now, and he's how old now? 40 and feel better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 I don't mind this deal at all. I mean it would be nice if it was 1 year less but the money is right and makes the 7 years feel better. The biggest thing for me is not breaking up the chemistry this team has by getting rid of one of their biggest leaders in Kreider. This team has a very good chance of being good/great for a long time and trading Kreider could of hurt that. Paying Kreider till he’s 36 could hurt that too. Know how I know? Cause when they’ve done it before it’s hurt every time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRangers723 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 All the data: Pro NHL forwards generally peak at 27/28 and then decline. BSBH: I don't buy it, the college whippersnappers home on break take it easy on me during pickup. Sounds legit. Sign everyone you like til they're 42. Been a rough day for you Petey. Your least favorite player is staying out lol. Hey look at the bright side with the Skjei trade Strome probably isn’t going anywhere yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Been a rough day for you Petey. Your least favorite player is staying out lol. Hey look at the bright side with the Skjei trade Strome probably isn’t going anywhere yet They can give Strome a Pageau contract now so he can play on the 4th line with Kreider in 4 years. Or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRangers723 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 They can give Strome a Pageau contract now so he can play on the 4th line with Kreider in 4 years. Or something like th . oh no that can’t be. Only Kreider is gonna be on the 4th line being “lazy” while Strome lights it up haha. In all seriousness I like that we have two lines that have great chemistry. I love getting the extra first too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 'Brander's team also found that forwards: Improve more quickly than they decline and typically begin "a significant decline in their early 30s." Perform within 90 per cent of their peak from 24 to 32 years old.' https://www.cbc.ca/news/when-nhl-players-peak-hockey-metrics-1.2646054 So for a power forward, I'd expect 4 solid years from Kreider. With the modified no-trade list, there is some flexibility when the Rangers get to year 4, 5, 6. With Ryan Callahan, he got moved to a contender that was looking to add one more piece. I don't love the length of the deal, but at least there isn't a no move clause. You've got a forward core to build around Panarin, Zib, and Kreider. Still a lot of contracts expiring in the next year or two, and decisions to be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickeyT Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 love how no one talks about what JD, Gort, and Quinn know best, that CK is about more than just a return on his recent numbers. he?s the locker room, the alpha to the kids, and blue blood leadership through the rebuild. everyone is fine with the AAV but hates the last 2 years. fuck that, the cap goes up every year & we?re trying to win while Mika and Panarin are in their prime. CK is a central piece in that equation, especially with Mika. put a C on him already and let?s get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 love how no one talks about what JD, Gort, and Quinn know best, that CK is about more than just a return on his recent numbers. he’s the locker room, the alpha to the kids, and blue blood leadership through the rebuild. everyone is fine with the AAV but hates the last 2 years. fuck that, the cap goes up every year & we’re trying to win while Mika and Panarin are in their prime. CK is a central piece in that equation, especially with Mika. put a C on him already and let’s get it done. That’s all fair But you can’t ignore the history of deals like this and how they’ve been burned on them every single time in the past and how they’ve paid a price on them every single time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 That?s all fair But you can?t ignore the history of deals like this and how they?ve been burned on them every single time in the past and how they?ve paid a price on them every single time.So the Panarin deal is equally if not worse based on the term and at 11.6M? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 So the Panarin deal is equally if not worse based on the term and at 11.6M? No Panarin is one of the leagues best players. You can pay an elite guy for 7 years. Kreider is not Just look at the deals they’ve given out to guys in that tier below elite. The good to very good player on long-term UFA deals or extensions has always hurt them. Just a fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Modest prediction: whatever our problems may be in 2027, the least of them will be Kreider and his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4EverRangerFrank Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 ...onward to a Cup (or two or three) boys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 I'll worry about 2027 when we get there. 6.5 will be pennies two years from now. I'm glad he's back. At some point you have to dig in and move forward instead of continually tearing down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Same here. I'll worry about it down the road. I don't share the same fear that Kreider or Panarin for thst matter are going to magically become liabilities when they hit a certain age. They both clearly make the team better for the foreseeable future. It's not always about age. Shattenkirk sucked balls prior to even getting older. IF they went out and paid the same term for the best available forward who was the same age but not named Kreider I think the concern wouldn't be as significant. Regardless of all that he's here, the deal is done do hopefully it pays off. I'm guessing that's something we can all agree on [emoji106] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Same here. I'll worry about it down the road. I don't share the same fear that Kreider or Panarin for thst matter are going to magically become liabilities when they hit a certain age. They both clearly make the team better for the foreseeable future. It's not always about age. Shattenkirk sucked balls prior to even getting older. IF they went out and paid the same term for the best available forward who was the same age but not named Kreider I think the concern wouldn't be as significant. Regardless of all that he's here, the deal is done do hopefully it pays off. I'm guessing that's something we can all agree on [emoji106] Right. 1.8 million more next year than this year. I don't see the problem. Rangers have a shit load of young, talented players. Not sure what else you could want. Now they're set up to take a run at the playoffs AND pick twice in the 1st round. Really remarkable when you think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 I'll worry about 2027 when we get there. 6.5 will be pennies two years from now. I'm glad he's back. At some point you have to dig in and move forward instead of continually tearing down. By 2025 if we haven’t gotten to a cup final or won a cup, we have bigger problems than Kreiders 1.8m extra cap space. Wtf are we playing for if not a cup with Ziby, Kreider, Bread, et al ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Get rid of everybody at 28. That'll work.Name one player that got moved at 29 or we let walk as a UFA and we sat there 4 years later and said "Wish we still had him" Now name the guys we signed at 29 or 30 and let me know how those deals turned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LONG LONG LONG TIME FAN Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 LTF must be thrilled You bet, Vodka man. Alot more than the doomsayers around here that fret about the future as if they know it all. Uh, you know who i'm referring to. Smart signing. Bye.......... T.G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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