Keirik Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Where are we getting $13 million from, out of curiosity? He was owed $12.5 million in total compensation this year and next. He’s already received his $1 million in bonus this year and they’ve paid him half of his $6 million in base salary He’s owed $5.5 next year. $1 million in bonus plus 4.5 in base As of now, I believe hes owed about 8.5 million total for the last 18 months of his contract. Could be wrong but I think it’s adding it Shattnkirks dead cap space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 2.74 2.98 3.04 3.18 It's not only the defense. But nobody with an ounce of sense walks away from $13 million. Oh I see it now Yeah I don?t think they?re rushing to line up for more dead cap space either 7.5 million in dead cap is on the books for next year. And they still have 2 more years each of Girardi and Shatty after next year which eats up about 2.5 each of those 2 Need to avoid buyouts at this point They had one bullet on that and they spent it on Shatty With Staal, Smith, Hank, and the big portion of Shatty?s buyout being over with next summer, that?s a ton of space they?ll recoup I don?t see them fucking with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4EverRangerFrank Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Holy crap -- 2 more years for Girardi? Man I forget those things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Yup 2 more years AFTER next year It’s through 22/23 It’s something like $23 million in cap space they recoup on Staal, Smith, and Hank plus the drop in Shatty’s buyout hit after next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Does Staal stay as a 6th/7th for a huge discount? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Does Staal stay as a 6th/7th for a huge discount? After next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Does Staal stay as a 6th/7th for a huge discount? God no. He brings very little these days and even him at a discount probably costs as much if not more than giving someone more deserving a chance from within. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 God no. He brings very little these days and even him at a discount probably costs as much if not more than giving someone more deserving a chance from within. They can find a younger, more mobile yet still veteran defenseman to be a bottom pair or 7th D. They’ll have no shortage of options to fill that spot and do it affordably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 I posted stats a few weeks ago, the only players to sign 4+ year deals and complete them with the Rangers are Staal, Girardi and Lundqvist. Their subsequent deals were ... restraining Huh? Didn't they buy out Girardi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Huh? Didn't they buy out Girardi? All of those contracts were their 2nd contracts, then re-signed. As in, even their best players turned out to be detriments in the cap era. Most importantly, long contracts DONT work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 All of those contracts were their 2nd contracts, then re-signed. As in, even their best players turned out to be detriments in the cap era. Most importantly, long contracts DONT work. I'd amend that - long UFA-age contracts don't work. I'm not sure I can recall a long contract awarded to a young RFA (24 or younger) that backfired and wasn't an attempt to circumvent the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I'd amend that - long UFA-age contracts don't work. I'm not sure I can recall a long contract awarded to a young RFA (24 or younger) that backfired and wasn't an attempt to circumvent the cap. Well, if it happened, they didn’t finish out the contract with NY. I went back to the 2005 lockout when looking. I may have missed something, though. But out of all the players to be in NY for 15 seasons, and only 3 finished contracts of 4/5 years or more... well... (I am also the person that usually says “don’t worry about next seasons cap, it’s never been an issue”) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 In terms of Staal and Girardi, I think most of us assumed it was one or the other. I re,enter many of us surprised they signed Staal after previously signing Girardi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I'd amend that - long UFA-age contracts don't work. I'm not sure I can recall a long contract awarded to a young RFA (24 or younger) that backfired and wasn't an attempt to circumvent the cap. I meannnnnn. Brady Skjei..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 In terms of Staal and Girardi, I think most of us assumed it was one or the other. I re,enter many of us surprised they signed Staal after previously signing Girardi. And I think we all thought both terms were bad. I think most here wanted to trade Girardi instead of re-signing him.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I think they’re going to do fine though on Panarin While it’s not the same category, and while I think eventually he’ll figure it out and settle in, no way they get their money’s worth on Trouba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 Steve Dangle Podcast discussed the return of a hypothetical Georgiev-to-Toronto deal and came to a unanimous decision: Andreas Johnsson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Wouldn’t be too bad and it does offer a production replacement for Kreider if you feel last year was more of a norm and not the production of playing with talented players. Awfully small though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Steve Dangle Podcast discussed the return of a hypothetical Georgiev-to-Toronto deal and came to a unanimous decision: Andreas Johnsson. You don't say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 You don't say. "I CAN!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Steve Dangle Podcast discussed the return of a hypothetical Georgiev-to-Toronto deal and came to a unanimous decision: Andreas Johnsson. I don't know much about him other than he's 25. He's a 3rd liner, yeah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 You don't say. You are still wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 I don't know much about him other than he's 25. He's a 3rd liner, yeah? He's basically Jesper Fast with offensive ability. 45-point (0.55 P/GP) player thus far in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I don't know much about him other than he's 25. He's a 3rd liner, yeah? Yeah looks like a 3rd liner that gets some pp time on the second unit. Potted 20 last year . Just looking at their cap hits. Who the hell is going to play defense for them next year? Lol. Give em Skjei and Georgiev and we will take Nylander and his contract :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 Yeah looks like a 3rd liner that gets some pp time on the second unit. Potted 20 last year . Just looking at their cap hits. Who the hell is going to play defense for them next year? Lol. Give em Skjei and Georgiev and we will take Nylander and his contract :) Pietrangelo. Duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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