phillyb Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Ok, threads are the multipage discussions like we're in now. Are you suggesting banning people from threads? Or from the section, entirely? I think there's confusion about "thread banning" and what that means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Ok, threads are the multipage discussions like we're in now. Are you suggesting banning people from threads? Or from the section, entirely? I think there's confusion about "thread banning" and what that means. Yeah, I'm a bit confused myself. Technically the politics talk happens in a subforum that's for other stuff besides that, but really it's mostly politics talk. Perhaps Politics can be it's own subforum to make it easy for restricting access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Yes. I would absolutely thread ban/suspend. We don't need to lose good hockey posters over a heated argument in politics. Thread ban them from politics, and if it carries over to other forums then you start giving infractions with full board suspensions. Just my opinion. I'm gonna discuss this internally with the team. We originally went about it the opposite, but this is a great point I hadn't considered (the affect it has on hockey). Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Yes. I would absolutely thread ban/suspend. We don't need to lose good hockey posters over a heated argument in politics. Thread ban them from politics, and if it carries over to other forums then you start giving infractions with full board suspensions. Just my opinion.Agreed. Selfishly LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Yes. I would absolutely thread ban/suspend. We don't need to lose good hockey posters over a heated argument in politics. Thread ban them from politics, and if it carries over to other forums then you start giving infractions with full board suspensions. Just my opinion. You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to rmc51 again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 25, 2019 Author Share Posted October 25, 2019 Yes. I would absolutely thread ban/suspend. We don't need to lose good hockey posters over a heated argument in politics. Thread ban them from politics, and if it carries over to other forums then you start giving infractions with full board suspensions. Just my opinion. You’re going to lose them once they argue over politics. No one gets over it. Me and you fight in a political thread, we get banned, is that going to change how we feel about each other in a hockey thread? No. That’s the negative effect, because now even if we agree with one another about a hockey post, neither of us will engage with each other, rep each other, agree publicly, etc ... That creates less posting and fewer posts in threads. It needs to be nipped in the bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 You?re going to lose them once they argue over politics. No one gets over it. Me and you fight in a political thread, we get banned, is that going to change how we feel about each other in a hockey thread? No. That?s the negative effect, because now even if we agree with one another about a hockey post, neither of us will engage with each other, rep each other, agree publicly, etc ... That creates less posting and fewer posts in threads. It needs to be nipped in the bud. I understand where you're coming from. Valid point. I just feel that's maybe a small minority of posters who would carry over over from time to time. Just as an example, Pete and I have gone back and forth numerous times there and I've never held it against him in the Rangers forum. I know we have agreed on several Rangers topics. I don't know if I've seen anyone carry over a political argument into the main boards, but maybe it just gets deleted before I see it lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 I understand where you're coming from. Valid point. I just feel that's maybe a small minority of posters who would carry over over from time to time. Just as an example, Pete and I have gone back and forth numerous times there and I've never held it against him in the Rangers forum. I know we have agreed on several Rangers topics. I don't know if I've seen anyone carry over a political argument into the main boards, but maybe it just gets deleted before I see it lolAgree. I don't have an issue with toxicity spilling to other threads. My issues comes with reading something that I can't help but reply to, for a variety of reasons. But the answer seems to be I'm a toddler, so whatevs. No one is going to change anyone's mind and I've spent enough time on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 You’re going to lose them once they argue over politics. No one gets over it. Me and you fight in a political thread, we get banned, is that going to change how we feel about each other in a hockey thread? No. That’s the negative effect, because now even if we agree with one another about a hockey post, neither of us will engage with each other, rep each other, agree publicly, etc ... That creates less posting and fewer posts in threads. It needs to be nipped in the bud. You're trying to speak this into existence, IMO. I haven't seen any evidence of this. In fact, what we're seeing — from both sides of the aisle in the case of rmc and myself — is the opposite. That we don't hold grudges like this, or let political spats (of which we've shared many) negatively affect our ability to talk about the team, or frankly, any other subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 You're trying to speak this into existence, IMO. I haven't seen any evidence of this. In fact, what we're seeing — from both sides of the aisle in the case of rmc and myself — is the opposite. That we don't hold grudges like this, or let political spats (of which we've shared many) negatively affect our ability to talk about the team, or frankly, any other subject. It's a valid fear, but it is exactly that - a fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 You're trying to speak this into existence, IMO. I haven't seen any evidence of this. In fact, what we're seeing — from both sides of the aisle in the case of rmc and myself — is the opposite. That we don't hold grudges like this, or let political spats (of which we've shared many) negatively affect our ability to talk about the team, or frankly, any other subject. Absolutely not true. Grudges do carry over, people are put on ignore lists, etc. At one time Pete pissed me off so much in the political thread, I stopped responding to him and his posts anywhere on the forum. I have someone on ignore right now because of the political thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Absolutely not true. Grudges do carry over, people are put on ignore lists, etc. At one time Pete pissed me off so much in the political thread, I stopped responding to him and his posts anywhere on the forum. I have someone on ignore right now because of the political threadPlease go back to that practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 U’d miss me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Absolutely not true. Grudges do carry over, people are put on ignore lists, etc. At one time Pete pissed me off so much in the political thread, I stopped responding to him and his posts anywhere on the forum. I have someone on ignore right now because of the political thread The plural of anecdote is not evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Than i don’t know what is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 You're one example. I'm pretty sure most users don't ignore another based on a single interaction in a single thread or section. My guess is it's more based on numerous interactions and overall posting style (perceived aggression/hostility, or stubborness) that spans the length of the forum, not just one of it's subsections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Im gonna follow someone’s advice and not post in the political thread. U guys will get bored if there was no one with a different view posting. The thread will die on its own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 You're one example. I'm pretty sure most users don't ignore another based on a single interaction in a single thread or section. My guess is it's more based on numerous interactions and overall posting style (perceived aggression/hostility, or stubborness) that spans the length of the forum, not just one of it's subsections.Phil, at this point it's clear you're going to keep the section. It's fine, it's your forum. You can do what you want to. But the entire country is divided and people are not talking to friends, family and stop following each other on social based on politics. Is it so far fetched to believe that it happens here? There are like a dozen users active in politics and hundreds DOZENS who don't even go in there. There's a reason for that. You're really just better off on saying you're keeping it because you want it than to be so dismissive of what's right in front of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 I mean I'm guessing not a lot of people want to fuck this Mikey guy either. So this poll seems skewed. Calling fake news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Phil, at this point it's clear you're going to keep the section. It's fine, it's your forum. You can do what you want to. But the entire country is divided and people are not talking to friends, family and stop following each other on social based on politics. Is it so far fetched to believe that it happens here? There are like a dozen users active in politics and hundreds DOZENS who don't even go in there. There's a reason for that. You're really just better off on saying you're keeping it because you want it than to be so dismissive of what's right in front of you. Not at all. Is it so far-fetched to think that not talking about it is going to make that go away? "I'm not interested in politics," is probably the reason why, too. Simplest solution is usually the correct one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Not at all. Is it so far-fetched to think that not talking about it is going to make that go away? "I'm not interested in politics," is probably the reason why, too. Simplest solution is usually the correct one.I don't understand what the first paragraph means but I'm honestly too tired to keep going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Political thread bans would only escalate the the issues being addressed in these recent discussions . We know Phil and Rhommey aren't getting banned from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Oh look. More baseless accusations without evidence. Let's all hurry up and believe it! Why don't you go ask Rhom how many infractions he's gotten in the last year and compare his record to yours. I'M bEiNg pErSeCuTeD! Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Whatever Something will eventually click up top, hopefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abe Froman Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Who is Rhommy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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