Phil Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 4. If Kevin Hayes does not sign with the Flyers, who acquired his rights from Winnipeg for a fifth-rounder, before hitting the open market, the Rangers most certainly will check in on the potential prodigal. But the contract/cap pace will only be a part of the decision-making process. If the Rangers sign Hayes to line up behind Mika Zibanejad in the middle, that means Filip Chytil would move semi-permanently to the wing and that we?d be back to what for Lias Andersson. Of course, Hayes would no longer be in the conversation if the Rangers somehow wind up with Jack Hughes in the draft. And there is this, too: it is possible that Kaapo Kakko?s best position is center. So while the Rangers like Hayes and recognize the importance of having pillars in the room to support the kindergarten-age kids, a number of obstacles stand in the way of a return. https://nypost.com/2019/06/11/rangers-arent-shying-away-from-buyouts-this-summer/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 No thank you. Makes no sense to me. We have 5 centers looking for icetime. Potentially 6. And that's without Hayes in the mix. It's a fix for a short term problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 I wish Larry would knock the “Kakko might be a center” narrative on the head. He’s a winger, a very good goal scoring one which the Rangers badly need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Hayes met with Philly management yesterday. Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Hayes met with Philly management yesterday. Interesting. I mean.. they traded for this rights. It was gonna happen lol Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LONG LONG LONG TIME FAN Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Larry Brooks? Wouldn't give this " news " much substance at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 I mean.. they traded for this rights. It was gonna happen lol Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk The timing. Met yesterday Last night Brooks mentions Rangers interest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 At this point I think about 75% of what Larry Brooks says comes right off the stable floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Slow news time of the year means Larry gets to make stuff up. Well, more so than usual anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slobberknocker Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 sign him and than let JD flip him at next year's deadline for another no 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCCP Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 I always like Hayes but im in the "been there, done that" mode Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Same here, but we also need a Centerman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 I think there is a very limited number of teams for whom Hayes might want to play. Most of those probably have cap issues, so there is a possibility that he can be signed for a reasonable amount (that is, reasonable per the realities of today's market, not per the perception of forum posters). If so, I'd go for him. I am impressed at how his game improved during his time here. If you told me during his first two seasons that he would become a very reliable defensive player who you would go to for big defensive end draws, I would have been shocked. His puck control prowess does all sorts of thing to make opposition go haywire in ways not immediately apparent to casual observers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Same here, but we also need a Centerman. Zib, Strome, Chytil, Howden, Anderson. Why do we need a 6th center? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 I think Hayes tries to come back to NY, first. If not, probably the highest bidder. Dallas, Colorado, probably not Montreal As for the Rangers, it really depends on how you see this rebuild going. As much as I want to be competitive next season, if it's the "slow patient process", then it doesnt seem like the right fit. Ideally, you have a 2C developing and can take that position this season or next season. Then you have a $7m 3C. I dont see has as a future #1C. And we've seen Zibanejad and Hayes, as 1 -2, have their best seasons as NHLers... and the team got the #2 overall draft pick. I think it's time to move on, give Chytil a shot at 2C, maybe Andersson has a huge step forward season... The Rangers have enough 3C's, and if Zibanejad or Hayes doesnt improve from last season, then you're in a rough spot for 7 seasons. On the other hand... gotta love that big body in the middle of the ice. Although Chytil, Zibanejad and Howden are of similar size - its not the same. Neither is their defensive play, puck possession, ability to carry the puck in the neutral zone and into the offensive zone, the penalty killing, leadership, and the familiarity. With re-signing Hayes, you need to "go for it" sooner than later. You have $7m in Hayes, and Zibanejad will need a significant increase within a season or to of Andersson, Chytil,Kakko, Howden, Kravtsov, maybe a defender or 2, or a vet that sticks around. Hell, I might have to bring back "Move Zibanejad to wing" if this doesnt pan out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 I think Hayes tries to come back to NY, first. If not, probably the highest bidder. Dallas, Colorado, probably not Montreal As for the Rangers, it really depends on how you see this rebuild going. As much as I want to be competitive next season, if it's the "slow patient process", then it doesnt seem like the right fit. Ideally, you have a 2C developing and can take that position this season or next season. Then you have a $7m 3C. I dont see has as a future #1C. And we've seen Zibanejad and Hayes, as 1 -2, have their best seasons as NHLers... and the team got the #2 overall draft pick. I think it's time to move on, give Chytil a shot at 2C, maybe Andersson has a huge step forward season... The Rangers have enough 3C's, and if Zibanejad or Hayes doesnt improve from last season, then you're in a rough spot for 7 seasons. On the other hand... gotta love that big body in the middle of the ice. Although Chytil, Zibanejad and Howden are of similar size - its not the same. Neither is their defensive play, puck possession, ability to carry the puck in the neutral zone and into the offensive zone, the penalty killing, leadership, and the familiarity. With re-signing Hayes, you need to "go for it" sooner than later. You have $7m in Hayes, and Zibanejad will need a significant increase within a season or to of Andersson, Chytil,Kakko, Howden, Kravtsov, maybe a defender or 2, or a vet that sticks around. Hell, I might have to bring back "Move Zibanejad to wing" if this doesnt pan out. Is 50 point Kevin Hayes really the missing piece to the Stanley Cup puzzle? He hasn't been. As you said, he's a $7m third liner in 2 years. I sincerely hope the Rangers are not that short sighted. We shouldn't be moving young players into unnatural positions to accommodate Kevin Hayes -- who was relegated to the 4th line on a good team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 I think Hayes tries to come back to NY, first. If not, probably the highest bidder. Dallas, Colorado, probably not Montreal As for the Rangers, it really depends on how you see this rebuild going. As much as I want to be competitive next season, if it's the "slow patient process", then it doesn't seem like the right fit. Ideally, you have a 2C developing and can take that position this season or next season. Then you have a $7m 3C. I don't see has as a future #1C. And we've seen Zibanejad and Hayes, as 1 -2, have their best seasons as NHLers... and the team got the #2 overall draft pick. I think it's time to move on, give Chytil a shot at 2C, maybe Andersson has a huge step forward season... The Rangers have enough 3C's, and if Zibanejad or Hayes doesn't improve from last season, then you're in a rough spot for 7 seasons. On the other hand... gotta love that big body in the middle of the ice. Although Chytil, Zibanejad and Howden are of similar size - its not the same. Neither is their defensive play, puck possession, ability to carry the puck in the neutral zone and into the offensive zone, the penalty killing, leadership, and the familiarity. With re-signing Hayes, you need to "go for it" sooner than later. You have $7m in Hayes, and Zibanejad will need a significant increase within a season or to of Andersson, Chytil,Kakko, Howden, Kravtsov, maybe a defender or 2, or a vet that sticks around. Hell, I might have to bring back "Move Zibanejad to wing" if this doesn't pan out. I like that first theory, Josh man. The patient way to go is the best way I believe as well. It's a whole new hierarchy, pretty much from top to bottom now and I'm sure they'll have their own way to approach this whole rebuild. To me, hell! I wanna see all new kids and a whole new attitude. I've watched this Sather regime for too long and quite frankly, I'm tired of looking at it. I think with the Kaako era on the rise and with Gorton, JD, and Quinn we have a good start to the next 10-15 years of some really good Rangers hockey headed our way. THAT is what I'm looking forward to!! As well as rooting for these kids to take shape this season, and show good signs of the future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYR2711 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 No need to have Zib and Hayes locked up while you have some young centers in the pipe. No need to bring Hayes back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 No need to have Zib and Hayes locked up while you have some young centers in the pipe. No need to bring Hayes back. Our best center prospect put up 20 pts last season. just sayin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Our best center prospect put up 20 pts last season. just sayin But what is this supposed to mean? That Chytil won't get better over the next few years? Or are you only concerned about next season? I assume Hayes is looking for 5+ years which makes the latter seem awfully short sighted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCCP Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Our best center prospect put up 20 pts last season. just sayin but he only played center a handful of games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Yeah - not a great sign. I'd love to see Chytil get a good look a C. I liked his skating at the end of the season when moved to the center, and he was much more involved. As you said in the draft thread - they need to target centers in this draft - but those guys are still 3, 4, 5 seasons away from being effective NHLers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCCP Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Yeah - not a great sign. I'd love to see Chytil get a good look a C. I liked his skating at the end of the season when moved to the center, and he was much more involved. As you said in the draft thread - they need to target centers in this draft - but those guys are still 3, 4, 5 seasons away from being effective NHLers. unless they sign a free agent, I think they'll slot Chytil as a C. They should, anyway. yes but so are our other top prospects. so no big deal, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slobberknocker Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 If you remember back to his first year Hayes held the puck too long and played marshmellow soft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Our best center prospect put up 20 pts last season. just sayin Our next best center prospect should be one of Kakko or Hughes. Zib Kakko/Hughes Chytil Kravstov Howden Strome Andersson Nieves Why do they need Hayes? These kids have to play. Fuck Hayes. Spend on a winger or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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