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1 minute ago, RangerDanger said:

Trust and believe the Caps will throw absolutely everything at us the next game. They have nothing to lose.

Just now, Keirik said:

I'll have you know a dr once told me im virus free

1 hour ago, Ozzy said:

You guys both did really well.  The Giants got a really good player for DJ, now I hope they reset the clock on him and give him a chance to show what he's got, now with at least a solid weapon.

 

The Raiders got that TE from Georgia (Bowers).  He's a good guy to step right in and add to that offense with Devonte!  Now all we need is someone to throw them the fucking ball!  LOL

I saw Bowers in the top 10 of most drafts. I think the Raiders got good value. There's nothing they can do when there's a blitz of 6 QBs before pick 13 lol

47 minutes ago, H-Dreamer said:

It doesn't? The Bears are on their third QB project in like 8 years, the Panthers will probably draft QB in 2 years again, cause their team sucks too hard for a young QB to carry it.

Broncos haven't had a good QB since Manning left, though they sure tried.

Yes you need a good QB to win a Superbowl, no randomly picking QBs in the first round doesn't get you one.

So what? It doesn't change the Super Bowl results. It's a different league today. It's a passing dominant league and QB values are higher than ever. As a result, any QB with even a small chance of being good is generally going to get picked higher than ever before. That's just how it is. All of these examples that get thrown out there of "Brady was a 6th", "Russel Wilson was a 3rd", doesn't matter. It's a new era propped up by a clear favoritism on how important that QB has become to be recognized, especially as the game has changed.

20 minutes ago, Br4d said:

 

Having a top QB and nothing else is worse than having an average QB and real talent.

 

Look at Justin Herbert and Joe Burrow.  Look at the Lions with Matthew Stafford.  Look at the Chargers with Drew Brees.

 

The reality is that about 75% of the teams have a good, competent or better QB (Kirk Cousins with the Vikings, Josh Allen with the Bills, etc.) and still can't get out of their own way.

 

Draft the *best* player available.  Don't make bets on guys who weren't close to the best at their position in college.  This was a very effective golden rule that allowed teams picking lower in the round to dominate teams picking higher on a consistent basis for 40-odd years before everybody got impatient and started wasting their 1st round picks on pipe dreams about a decade ago.

Why are we picking between two scenarios that are so unlikely to win a Super Bowl?

I think it's generally harder to find a top QB, so I don't blame teams for making it a higher priority in the new NFL that has become a high octane passing league. The end goal is Super Bowl. You need a top QB to have a reasonable chance at one. It's kind of that simple IMO, though if you own a team and care more about making the playoffs for revenue, just to get casually bounced in the first round or two year over year, that's fine. Different objective.

3 minutes ago, Br4d said:

 

The 1st round of the draft is for getting great talent.  You win by accumulating more talent than the rest of the teams you are competing with.

 

Taking the 6th QB, or the 5th, 4th or 3rd, is really likely to see you giving up a talent differential vs what you would have gotten there instead.

 

The NFL right now takes that extra QB early in the 1st round.  That's why so many teams are generationally hopeless at this point.

 

It is important to get a QB but it is more important not to bust on your early 1st round pick.

I agree that your logic is sound and it sounds good, but not having a top QB doesn’t work out that often regardless of how good the rest of the team is. Sounds good on paper, but works poorly in practice. Like socialism.

25 minutes ago, H-Dreamer said:

Yh, most these QBs would have been advertised as "projects" and picked in the later rounds, but no one has patience anymore to develop. Well, except the Packers and oh look their guy looks solid. Fans are the biggest hinderance these days, never happy, always complaining and adding pressure, because Owners get scared they don't sell enough tickets if they don't draft shiny new toys.

Broncos fan I watch occasionally made it almost his entire personality that he wanted a QB this draft, any QB, he got really salty when the Vikings got an additional 1st Rounder and threatened to trade up. lol (and they didn't even need it in the end)

Past 10 years? 50/50

Though one might attribute that to Brady, who won 4 as a late pick, then there's Foles winning one as a third Round Pick.

Mahomes got 3 as a 10th Overall, guess that counts, Stafford as 1st Overall, but not on the team that drafted him and the shell of Peyton Manning with the Broncos.

3x Mahomes

4x Brady

1x Stafford

1x Peyton Manning

1x Foles

By my estimation, that’s 1 out of 10 with a below top 5-10 QB in the league.

The 10 years before that:

2x Ben Roethlisberger
2x Eli Manning

1x Russel Wilson

1x Flacco

1x Aaron Rodgers

1x Drew Brees

1x Tom Brady

1x Peyton Manning

Only argument that can be made is Flacco was outside the top 10. I’m not even going to look to see if it’s true, and just give it to you. Again 1 out of 10.

The odds in the last 20 years of winning a SB without a top 10 QB are 10%…at best.

All of a sudden the bust rate on QBs in the draft doesn’t hit as hard.

The playoffs haven’t even started for the Rangers yet. These are warm up games.

1 hour ago, Br4d said:

6 QB's in the first 12 picks.  Aside from Caleb Williams they are probably 65% likely to bust based on past draft results.

 

The NFL has a really bad paradigm going on about drafting QB's in the 1st round.  The days when only 2 or 3 QB's went in the 1st round, sometimes only 1, were correct.  This recent QB Fever (from about 2014 onwards) is a case of about 16 teams out of 32 who do not understand what the odds are and are pretty bad at developing QB's anyway.

 

2021's failures (because the NFL is on this really bad trip) led directly to 2024's likely failures.  Odds are 2024's failures will lead to the next totally overdrafted QB class in 2027 or so.

What are the odds of winning Super Bowl without a top 10 QB in the league?

I think they know the bust odds on drafting QBs, but when SB probabilities are generally dictated by needing a high end QB, it gets GMs to roll the dice at draft time.

With that said, I don’t know what the Falcons are doing. Completely unnecessary reach. They just signed Cousins to big money and Penix is already 24 years old. He’s going to sit until his late 20s having not played an NFL game? Just strange. If it were a young 21 year old QB or something that’d be fine.

2 minutes ago, Keirik said:

Odunze is better in my eye and more mature. Very happy Bears fan here. 

I'd have been happy with Odunze too for the Giants. I agree I think he's more mature, and also more of a prototypical X receiver. I think Nabers is significantly more electric though. Quicker, more explosive, by a large margin.

Nabers great pick for the GeeeeeeeeeeeeeMEN

Florida is a buzz saw. Nobody is going to stop them.

This team is so exciting and fun to watch.

Also, they have pretty good taste in other sports

Florida just caved in TB in OT from the puck drop. Absolute clinic of chances and they end it.

Cuylle’s a low key shit stirrer and I like it

Just now, Scott said:

how many guys can have the puck on their stick and fail to clear it?

Infuriating

Capitals are just a really shitty fucking team. Still can't believe they made the playoffs out of all the teams that were in the running

That's not even a penalty let alone a major

That was the best body check Panarin has ever dished out

Unreal

If Trouba really want to display some leadership, he’d take himself out of the lineup until he doesn’t suck anymore

Dont need the PP, absolutely dirty by Gus and Tro

Its not a penalty if they get puck first

15 minutes ago, Ozzy said:

 

Wearing the jersey tonight with the crew!! 

 

I got him for 1st goal tonight!

You should bring a sign that says "Yukon Do It!"

Get on tv so we can see you

On 4/22/2024 at 8:34 AM, Ozzy said:

 

Even a blind squirrel.....  LOL

Nah don’t let him talk to you that way!

It wasn’t blind faith at all. Laf showed some talent in previous seasons to give hope, just not with enough frequency. He needed to improve physically for the talent to be better showcased with more frequency, and we talked about it all summer long. He did that.