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2 hours ago, Xander said:

Why does a 19-year old rookie get the benefit of the doubt but the 45 year old with a history of success, winning, and leadership (and former NYR captain) get slammed due to the tweets of one shitty reporter?

“I’m certainly not going to let it ruin my Christmas and I don’t think anyone here is going to let it ruin their break, either."
That's all you need to know about his time as a player on the Rangers and you don't think he has that attitude in the office??

1 hour ago, Phil said:

Doesn’t work like this. No player who gets to free agency, who is married and likely starting a family, is going to willingly give up control over where he plays. You can give him the trade protection or not, but not almost certainly means he'll go somewhere else (that will give it to him).

I'm not saying don't give him ANY clause but even if you don't give him one, who's going to take someone making near $10 mil AAV/season?? 

2 hours ago, Blue Heaven said:

$10 million a year in a no-tax state.  

Barkov would bring home $6.1 million compared to $5.364 million if in NYC.

Mika would have to sign for 8y/$86 million....$10.75 million per year to bring home more or less the same as Barkov.....which Mika will not get but shows how much an advantage a no tax state is vs. a high tax state for a superstar

If you do that, a NMC should be OFF THE TABLE, a non starter.

12 hours ago, Sod16 said:

He's going to get a 7-8 year deal for 9 or 9.5 per and, of course, a NMC.  It's not worth debating if we should do it, because we don't have much choice.  Eichel is not a better option for all the reasons discussed, and there is not another available elite 1C.  Anyone we might get in the alternative would have issues of some sort in terms of age, term, injuries etc.

Drury has gotten the memo about making the playoffs, and not signing Zib would put that in jeopardy, if not this year then next.

Will he get a NMC to term?? That's my question. If it's like the first 4 years then the last 4 M-NTC, I could live with it.

As long as there is no NMC, pay him what he wants. 

Honestly, the biggest lesson here is why some of the CBA rules are dumb. 7+ year contracts are too long, 7+ years of full team control is extremely heavyhanded for players.

If it was up to me, there would be an NFL style salary structure. No more "guaranteed contracts" only "guaranteed MONEY".

The thing is trying to predict what the cap ceiling will be for the start of the 23/24 season will be. By that time Kakko, Fox, and Kravtsov will be on their second contracts and ALF will be up for his. If ALF has blossomed by then to a superstar status and we have paid Ziby his money, we are really tight cap wise.

Panarin 11.6

Zibanejad 9 (if you assume he comes down slightly)

Fox 9 (assuming Makar set the bar and we lock him up long term)

Trouba 8

Kreider 6.5

Shesty 4

Goodrow 3.6

Kakko 3.5 (just guessing but it seems realistic if not low to me)

Kravtsov 3

Lindgren 3

 

That’s 61 million on 10 players and that’s without a 2C, ALF in the top 6 if you are assuming Kreider is a third liner, a potential raise for K’Andre, 2 other D, backup goalie, and about 4 of your bottom six. Cap is what, 82 million or so now with a possibility of covid shutting down fans at any time, at best a small bump for the 22/23 season and who knows for 23/24? It’s doable but it’s tight. Very tight. We either have to assume we leap bounds forward and our window is in these next two years or we pray guys don’t develop too fast (Kakko/Kravy) with increased ice time and production to anything elite next season or we have even worse decisions to make. That 8m for Trouba and 6.5 for Kreider are killers on a team with high potential draftees.

On 7/1/24, I want Trouba & Kreider's no trade list TOUT SUITE. Now looking at the trajectory of both players career, what do you see as a possible return on a potential trade of these two.

I'm confused. They should change the new division alignment to cater to the Arizona Coyotes? I don't think anyone cares about that franchise. In fact, if you took a vote, they are probably a top 2-3 franchise that would get voted to relocate to another city.

Because the vanilla midget commissioner is whiskey bound & hell bent for that franchise to succeed. That's why there's a fargin lockout every 10 years.

I would have done two 8 division conferences with 4 teams each.

New Jersey, NY Islanders, NY Rangers, Philadelphia

Boston, Buffalo, Montreal, Ottawa

Carolina, Tampa, Washington, Florida

Columbus, Detroit, Pittsburgh, Toronto

Seattle, Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary

Los Angeles, San Jose, Anaheim, Vegas

Winnipeg, Minnesota, Colorado, Chicago

Dallas, Nashville, St Louis, Arizona

Are you not ready for Eva-lution?

Does that include repainting the walls if you get my drift. #illbeinmybuck making a comeback on Raw??

Agreed. 8-9 mil imo.

$64,000 question "is he worth it"??

I don't....

 

But I can digest Kreider's 6.5 million a lot easier than Trouba's 8 mil.

 

We're married to those 2 guys for a long time.

The moment both their deals become M-NTC, GET 'EM OUTTA HERE and I don't care if you get pennies on the dollar for them in a trade.

Trouba's is more of a problem than Kreider's I think!

and how do you plan to move those players when they have full NMC's??

Not to mention who would take those contracts??

Had real Chinese food tonight and not American Chinese food so win is guaranteed

What's the diff??

So do most players in his position. They haven't just missed the playoffs for going on a sixth season since Eichel has been there, but are missing in miserable fashion. He's had three NHL coaches, and will probably play for a fourth before this year ends. Everyone has a breaking point. He's clearly reached his.

 

That said, Eichel is the x-factor in a coaching change discussion IMO. He has serious history with Jack going back to BU, so if the Rangers are serious about acquiring him (and do), and miss the playoffs as we expect, I can actually see them giving him a vote of confidence going into the off-season with perhaps the shortest leash of his tenure here to start the year. There's no way they don't want to see if that relationship can't salvage Eichel's play and the Rangers' play together.

If the Rangers are a lottery team in the draft & Eichel is available, then I'd consider trading for him.