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    [RS #27] Rangers vs St. Louis Blues — Fat Lady, on Deck!

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    5 hours ago, RodrigueGabriel said:

    Won't believe it until I see it, but this has the raw material for a turning point. Now just don't piss it aw

    4 hours ago, josh said:

    In the 90s, they were down to that for hamburgers. 
     

    maybe it was just in my town when BK showed up.

    it was right around the time they had the  beanie babies in the happy meals 

     

    I think they were called hornbaggers and cheesebaggers then 😉

    How Not to Rebuild: NYR Edition

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    41 minutes ago, ThirtyONE said:

    With all the chaos happening this season everyone is looking for short term solutions on how to fix this current team. "They should be cup contenders" they said. 

     

    But should they? 

     

    Last season, the team was mostly bad with the exception of one player: Igor. Yes they got goals from Kreider and Mika and Panarin but the TEAM was a mess until the deadline came and they brought in FIVE more players to fill out the roster. This offseason we couldn't afford to keep any of those new players. So where was the depth going to come from? Chytil, Kakko and Lafreniere, of course. 

     

    Except here's the problem:

    The Rangers NEVER gave the kids the keys to the franchise. They never built up the one part of their games that gives them confidence. Offense.

     

    Instead, from David Quinn to Gerard Gallant, from Gorton to Drury, this team has been mandated to WIN hockey games instead of build up their youngest players. From day one, Kaapo Kakko, Filip Chytil and Alexi Lafreniere have been asked to be passengers while Panarin and Kreider and Strome and Trochek and Mika drive the bus.  They've been kept on the 3rd line or worse for the majority of their careers. They've been punished harshly for mistakes. It's hard not to look across the river and make comparisons, so let's measure Kakko to Hughes to show how both teams have gone about developing their players:

     

    Jack Hughes career TOI: 3469.2

    Kaapo Kakko career TOI: 2704.1

    Kaapo has played 10 less games than Hughes in their careers, but assuming 18 minutes of ice time per night (which Kakko doesn't get) he's played the equivalent of 42 less NHL games.

     

    Hughes Career PP TOI: 592.7

    Kakko Career PP TOI: 292.6

     

    Kakko has had less than half the amount of PP time as Hughes, and as we've seen Kakko's time comes in 13 second spurts. 

     

    SO WHAT'S THE POINT? KAKKO ISN'T AS GOOD AS HUGHES.

    That's true. He's not. But this isn't just about Kakko. This is about Chytil. This is about Lafreniere, Kravstov, Ludkvist and even Lias Andersson. The Rangers have stockpiled picks for seemingly no reason. THREE first round picks have asked for a trade because they didn't see where they fit in the plans. During a rebuild, your three best prospects received so little ice time they asked to leave.

     

    We have no idea how good these players can be or could have been. Look at the Leafs. Look at the Oilers. Look at the Devils. Look at Tampa and the Hawks and the Penguins before them. Everyone who is now a star in the league was thrust into positive playing time while their team sucked. It didn't matter, because the players were growing. They were gaining confidence. They played every aspect of the game. That is not what has happened here.

     

    How do you fix the current team? 

    You do what should have been done 3 years ago. You put the kids on the ice. Over Panarin. Over Kreider. Over Trocheck. And you stop worrying about winning games. Panarin is not the future. Kreider and Mika are not the future. The team is about 4 players deep at this point. Everyone else is useless. You put the kids out and you see who swims. 

    Until Dolan is out the equation, its just wheel spinning

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    Call This Man a Cab

    in New York Rangers

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    1 minute ago, jsm7302 said:

    100% in agreement here. This team has the pieces that should be able to be competitive night in and night out but they aren't. Now they have a voiceless underperforming captain and no chemistry due to an unneeded upgrade at 2nd line center. I'd call Anaheim and offer them Trochek and Krav for Strome and Vatrano straight up. Pick up where they left off.

    Truth

    Call This Man a Cab

    in New York Rangers

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    1 minute ago, Sharpshooter said:

    Trocheck is kind of an upgrade over Strome though, I just don't know if he's a great fit here. I don't think he's been ass, though. Good comparison though with Sather. Jagr should've been brought back too.

    Word!

    Call This Man a Cab

    in New York Rangers

    Posted · Edited by goondman

    7 minutes ago, Sharpshooter said:

    He did, but they were up against the cap and couldn't bring back most of them anyway.

    Ya, but he could've brought Strome back instead of signing Trocheck. It some ways its a 6 in one, 1/2 dozen in the other

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