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So Gaudreau just signed for $9.7AV. Thats's $1.9MAV less than Panarin. So I guess the market says Panarin is overpaid by about $2M. Anyone care to take the L?

I'm surprised the rangers took this risk. This is a player who's had a gruesome injury in his past that took years to recover from. He has plates and screws in his leg. I don't see this guy being a reliable player who isn't injured a lot. He does play a harder game but his body is already breaking down. I just hope he doesn't fit LTIR when the time comes. The last thing this team needs is a guy who plays 20 games a year making this money

I get it but there is a cap. I see the kind of trade I'm proposing as a way to replace Panarin while also filling the hole at center. All the while creating space for next summer

If Patrick Kane truly wants to be a Ranger is there any chance that he doesn't become one? I feel like this is going to happen regardless of need. So in that vein I'll make another proposal that will anger the board: Kane tro Rangers at 50% retention Panarin to Florida at 25% retention Spencer Knight and Florida 1st to Chicago Rangers replace Panarin with Kane and have the cap space to find a center, say either of the Winnipeg boys

Lol you told me to stop whining for making my point about not wanting more buyout contracts. Then complain that I have the attitude. That's rich

Should everyone just shut up and fall in line with your thinking? Got it. The Rangers would do best by not handing out contracts to flawed players that they almost immediately regret signing and then have to buyout. One year flyer on him is fine. 3 years is just plain dumb. It's is not whining pointing out that this team consistently fucks up in this regard. Buyouts are a huge cap drain and in this case their is no need to enter into that risk

If by any chance they decide to bring in Dylan Strome they should do it on a 1 year contract. The Rangers would be stupid to hand out 3 or 4 years at any money to a guy who couldn't find traction in Arizona or Chicago. He is not the missing piece and $4m at 3 is going to hurt when the buyout comes.

I agree. The fans may "whine" about the holes in his game, well because he has many holes in his game.

How can anyone say "nobody was taking him" unless of course nobody took him.

You trade for him if you think he's worth it because you then own his rights and he's a RFA. If you think he's a capable player him being a UFA doesn't mean you're getting him, unless you think no other GM values him at all.

The guy was a healthy scratch on an awful team for stretches of the season. They are now not qualifying him and obviously there was no trade market for him. So 30 NHL Gm's think he's not worth a $3M gamble. I would think that there might be some validity to people "whining" about him not being the solution to the center problem.

I'm all for JT Miller. I just don't see how the money works especially after year 1. Seems like they would have to give up a lot for a rental.

This response is simple trolling only allowed because it's you.

Who cares what position they were in? It only matters where they are now. They have an abundance of wings and defenseman in their pipeline and on their NHL roster. Those are their strengths. It doesn't make sense to have Laf a 1OA pick and future of the franchise blocked from playing top 6 minutes or power play minutes, especially when the two blocking him make almost $20M in cap space. The entirety of your post here is making up shit that you think I said or mean. I want to redirect $7-10M in cap space to the center position from the wing. That doesn't make you Ottawa. That makes you deeper and better. I reply just fine. Consistently putting words in people's mouths to fit your narrative is moving the goal posts and debating a straw man . You have proven nothing and you saying so doesn't strengthen your opinion. That may work on the Huffington Post comments section.

Not moving the goalposts at all. You can't respond so you act like you're in first grade. The Rangers cannot afford to improve at center. The Rangers cannot afford it because their allocation of the cap is fucked up. They have decided to pay 25% of their cap on two left wings. Worse than that they have a plethora of wings in their system.

Bro, Ovie had playoff disappointment for over a decade until the Caps finally had great depth at center. Kusnetsov and Backstrom are a little different tha. Zib and scrub. The only other wing on your list here to win a cup is Marchand who had Bergeron and Krecji as their top 2 centers and I believe Seguin when they won. And yes Ovie is an all time great. So no I won't take the L. Teams that win don't do so by having zero depth at center. To even have to explain that to anyone here is laughable. The rangers have Zib and no one else that are considered good centers. That is a fact. Prove me wrong, so I can take an L

He's close to McDavid and McKinnon? You're kidding right? That is no dig on Panarin, the only one close is Matthews

I din't. Now Panarin is on the level of Ovie an all time great. Got it. lol

Yeah you did. The reason they had to clear cap space is because they are over leveraged on the wing. It's why they couldn't pay him, another wing what he deserved. Buchnevich is the opportunity cost of having Panarin.

You're right Marner makes about the same money and that is an awful allocation of cap space too. Teams don't win cups building their teams around left wings. You have 100 years of history to look at. This isn't about how good Kreider or Panarin is. This is about what this team needs and the money they have to get it. They need centers, especially a top 6 good one. Unless they draft and develop one that is going to cost minimum $6-7M AV. The other option is to move Laf for a young cost controlled center who can fill that role. All three options are unpopular because they are all tough decisions to pull the trigger on but that is there reality. As has been noted it's best to make the move that has to be done while you will get the best return for whatever asset you trade. Denying that this issue exists and that it has to be addressed in the next year or two doesn't make it go away. They are not winning a cup with some scrub centering the second line. Sorry

Panarin and Kreider's contracts make even less sense on this team when you have Laf and Kakko (assuming they reach their potential). Like it or not the Rangers future is very much tied to those two guys. Either as trade bait or as foundational pieces. Probably two of Panarin, Laf, Kreider, and Kakko need to be moved to better balance the cap positionally

To revise my statement. Maybe Panarin is only overpaid half that amount. The bigger issue is do you want so much money tied up on the wings regardless of the player. My viewpoint is no. Center and defense is where I want the lion share of my cap going. Even goaltending. It's great having the best goalie but only when that goalie is making the money Igor is making now. Hank was outstanding but his last contract was one of the biggest obstacles to improving the team enough for him to get his cup.

He's 100% right. Panarin is a left wing, not a center. He's not even close to a complete player. He's paid in the McDavid and soon to be McKinnon class. He is not those players, not even close. He's a great scorer on the wing.

The Rangers cannot trade Kakko or Chytil for a guy for one year. That would a terrible mistake. Lundqvist and a pick or Jones or Robertson I can see moving for such a player.