Drew a Penalty

I never said this, but it also clearly highlights your lack of understanding of his role and that of someone like Vesey. They’re not the ones scoring the goals… But yeah I’m not wasting my time “debating” with someone reading around my arguments. You and I aren’t ever seeing eye to eye.

Right but even Goodrow’s 3 year includes 1 year while he was with Tampa. That’s not even enough to pull up his numbers despite a stronger lineup and better coach.

This is all perfectly fair. But again, he’s not the only guilty party. I can’t tell you how many times I saw Schneider do the same, and he’s not a converted forward. This is something the team needs to work on. I hope Miller especially improves because he’s so loaded with potential.

Goodrow gets paid more than Fast because he won back to back cups. As much as Goodrow was a factor in those cups, I think Tampa would’ve won all the same with Fast in his stead. Fast is a better player and just doesn’t have cups on his resume. Don’t believe me? The stats back it up too. Of which you’ve provided none, by the way, besides point totals and cap hits. Is that how we judge quality? Cap hit? Jacob Trouba must be one hell of a defender then… But let’s get to stats shall we? Goodrow doesn’t even come close to Fast’s defensive ability. Fast is also quite literally the best forechecker in the league. The furthest up and to the right Canes flag represents him on the chart. It’s no wonder everywhere he goes he’s a valued teammate because he does all of the dirty work. And frankly I’m not convinced you know what the dirty work looks like. If you did, you’d appreciate players like Vesey and Fast. Their teammates do.

You’re far too preoccupied with Miller. It’s an epidemic on the Rangers, he’s not the sole contributor.

Miller chases because the forwards don’t support well enough. Miller isn’t the only one to do so either. Trouba and Schneider are both guilty of chasing and conceding the slot. It’s a lack of awareness from all parties. If both of your defensemen are out of the slot, you should have a center smart enough to know to cover.

Fast isn’t good? Yeah that’s about all I needed to read.

Right. And going by everything we’ve learned about the incoming staff, he’ll be leaned on heavily.

You’re diminishing his improvement as though you have a vendetta against him. Becoming a strong defensive player isn’t a beneficial trait? I’m sorry, but that’s flat out ridiculous. Who cares how or why he became the player he is? Anton Stralman was a failed PTO with the Devils. Did he not find a way to become an impactful defender? Using a PTO as means of diminishing a player’s contributions shows that you haven’t much of an argument. Vesey went from this: to this: He’s an exceptionally good role player who can slot up in the lineup. He’s found his niche and chose to stay here in NY because it’s where he’s comfortable. But sure let’s shit on the player for taking a discount and staying where he’s comfortable. I’m also not surprised you hold this opinion of Vesey because you held the same for Fast. And you were undoubtedly wrong about Fast given the tireless efforts the Rangers have made to replace him. I don’t think you’re capable of appreciating a good defensive player.

Will I have access to Pete during the downtime?

And there’s a strong emphasis on what the Rangers were lacking in. That first quote about knowing how to apply pressure properly is something the Rangers need to work on. They either didn’t support each other or did so in ways that weren’t anticipatory of the following play. Proper support goes a long way.

I’m really intrigued by this hire. He started off as a video coach and has kept progressing up the ranks. https://thecoachessite.com/usa-hockey-ntdp-coach-dan-muse-at-tcs-live/ https://www.iihf.com/en/events/2023/wm18/news/43158/rookie_coach_brings_voice_of_experience I think we’re still waiting on one more hire. If the reports from Friedge earlier are correct, it’ll be Phil Housley.

Paul Stastny ripped them on the way out too calling some of them too self-interested. Wheeler is not the guy you want leading your team.

Whatever pro scout identified him deserves tons of credit. I’m gonna credit Steve Eminger for no other reason than I feel like it. Vesey is pretty much everything we expected from Goodrow for 1/4 of the the price.

Jimm Vesey isn’t the same player he was in his last stint here. If you don’t think he’s any better or has changed his approach then you’re not watching close enough or not watching the right thing.

Brodzinski mainly.

They’ll make up the difference with 35+ bonuses.

Savard wasn’t a rumor, his name was thrown in by Brooks as someone they should pursue not someone they will. With Peca’s responsibilities being the PP and likely some form of dev work, he makes Savard unnecessary.

I remember finding out they were letting go of Nylander from some kid during summer camp. I was not happy.

Despite knowing how things turned out, I can still feel the hope emanating from this video. By far my favorite opening they’ve done. The bit with that generation’s “kids” always gets me in the feels.

https://www.allthreezones.com/player-cardsfaq.html

https://theathletic.com/4553117/2023/06/13/nhl-draft-2023-scouts-executives-reports-observations/

Oh I don’t care about you. You’re @Kreiders Rider’s problem.

You first. Put the iron mask back on, Leo.