josh Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 It was always going to take a lottery miracle to get LaFreniere It's happened before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 It's happened before not to the rangers. we never had #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 It's happened before Yes, it has Just not thinking it will happen again... 2 years in a row. They still are very likely to end up with a pick in the top-10. And it’s a good draft to pick high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Yes, it has Just not thinking it will happen again... 2 years in a row. They still are very likely to end up with a pick in the top-10. And it’s a good draft to pick high. and they'll pick another Jessiman or McIlrath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 and they'll pick another Jessiman or McIlrath Well I hope not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Sather's not picking...thank god! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slobberknocker Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 and they'll pick another Jessiman or McIlrath yee of little faith. or Lias... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Ye of Lias Faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 If you want to sleep tonight, I suggest not going to look at who they've taken in the top 10 since Sather took over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 P.S. They're six points out of the final wild card with a game in hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMinutesForNothing Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 P.S. They're six points out of the final wild card with a game in hand. And playing their best hockey of the season. Things are trending up and I'd be surprised to see us in a position to sell at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 And playing their best hockey of the season. Things are trending up and I'd be surprised to see us in a position to sell at this point.Uh... They're on a 1 game win streak and 5-5 over their last 10. If this is their best, they're definitely sellers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMinutesForNothing Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Uh... They're on a 1 game win streak and 5-5 over their last 10. If this is their best, they're definitely sellers. They just won 3 out of 4 and and beat 2 very good teams while doing it and scored 5 or 6 goals in all three games. They're absolutely on fire at home and play 8 of their next 10 games at home and have finally started to show more of an ability to limit shots and play a little defense. Also Shesterkin is now a factor, which gives us a better chance to win. This team is going to be in the thick of the playoff race. They're not winning the cup, but I don't think they'll be selling at the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 They just won 3 out of 4 and and beat 2 very good teams while doing it and scored 5 or 6 goals in all three games. They're absolutely on fire at home and play 8 of their next 10 games at home and have finally started to show more of an ability to limit shots and play a little defense. Also Shesterkin is now a factor, which gives us a better chance to win. This team is going to be in the thick of the playoff race. They're not winning the cup, but I don't think they'll be selling at the deadline.They're a wish of a playoff team and frankly Shesty 2 starts were rather ordinary. He's about as good as the other 2. The beat 2 good teams but lost to 3 good teams and 1 great team. Scoring has never been the problem. This team isn't good enough not to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 They’re a .500 team, give or take. They need to be selling, though a bit more selectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMinutesForNothing Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 What I really mean is that our defensive system is starting to finally hit its stride and turn things around. We have bled shots all season, however over the last 7 games the number of shots we have allowed have been 31(Edm), 29(Cal), 27(Van), 32(Col), 49(NJ), 29(STL), and 34(NYI). Other than the Devils, those are all good teams. We had averaged 36 shots allowed per game prior to those games and during those games we have averaged 33 shots allowed. Remove the Devils game and it's 30 shots allowed per game over 6 games all against teams currently sitting in a playoff spot with at least 54 points. We outshot our opponent three times in those 7 games, something we only did 9 times in the first 38 games of the season, mostly against terrible opponents. This is the best hockey we have played all season, even if all of the games didn't result in wins. We are actually starting to play better hockey and play Quinn's system the way he envisions it. If this trend continues we won't just be in the race, we'll be in the playoffs. It's a small sample size for sure, but it's the most recent sample we have to work with. Whether it continues remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 What I really mean is that our defensive system is starting to finally hit its stride and turn things around. We have bled shots all season, however over the last 7 games the number of shots we have allowed have been 31(Edm), 29(Cal), 27(Van), 32(Col), 49(NJ), 29(STL), and 34(NYI). Other than the Devils, those are all good teams. We had averaged 36 shots allowed per game prior to those games and during those games we have averaged 33 shots allowed. Remove the Devils game and it's 30 shots allowed per game over 6 games all against teams currently sitting in a playoff spot with at least 54 points. We outshot our opponent three times in those 7 games, something we only did 9 times in the first 38 games of the season, mostly against terrible opponents. This is the best hockey we have played all season, even if all of the games didn't result in wins. We are actually starting to play better hockey and play Quinn's system the way he envisions it. If this trend continues we won't just be in the race, we'll be in the playoffs. It's a small sample size for sure, but it's the most recent sample we have to work with. Whether it continues remains to be seen. That's selective stat measuring and the fact that they gave up 49 to a horrible Devil's team and 34 to an Islander team that's not very good offensively (average 29 shots a game usually) flies in the face of this theory. In fact, the shot totals we have up for the other teams you're noting are in line with their league averages. Which makes us... Very middling. Again, this very well be their best hockey. And it's not great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Next 5 games are the key. They need 9/10 points, which is possible as it's the Islanders twice, Red Wings twice and CBJ. Then a couple tough ones on the road then two more easy ones at home, and then three shitty teams on the road. It could make for some interesting decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Next 5 games are the key. They need 9/10 points, which is possible as it's the Islanders twice, Red Wings twice and CBJ. Then a couple tough ones on the road then two more easy ones at home, and then three shitty teams on the road. It could make for some interesting decisions.I just don't see them as locks beating anyone but the Red Wings. That Islander game was an anomaly for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Probably not, no, it's a tall task no matter the opponent. But I do see a path, it's a path back in to the conversation though. Even if they take all 10 they'll likely still be sitting 2 or 3 points out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 That's selective stat measuring and the fact that they gave up 49 to a horrible Devil's team and 34 to an Islander team that's not very good offensively (average 29 shots a game usually) flies in the face of this theory. In fact, the shot totals we have up for the other teams you're noting are in line with their league averages. Which makes us... Very middling. Again, this very well be their best hockey. And it's not great. I'd beg to differ on one critical thing: this may very well be their best hockey, and if that's good enough to take points from teams like the Avs and the Islanders in the fashion we did, then that's damn good progress and something to hang our hats on in a season where we knew we'd have some growing pains. It's the kind of thing Quinn should nurture and strive for on a consistent basis - a glimpse of the future so to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 I just don't see them as locks beating anyone but the Red Wings. That Islander game was an anomaly for them. Probably not, no, it's a tall task no matter the opponent. But I do see a path, it's a path back in to the conversation though. Even if they take all 10 they'll likely still be sitting 2 or 3 points out. We need to be near perfect for the next three or four weeks to really say we're in it. It's not impossible - there's always one team that rises from the ashes to be in the conversation every year. Some do better than others (lookin at you, STL, CAR), but there's always one. It's just not something we should expect. Gotta be tough on the players, too. Guys like Kreider, Strome, and Fast must be in whiplash mode with every point gained or lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Uh... They're on a 1 game win streak and 5-5 over their last 10. If this is their best, they're definitely sellers. They're a wish of a playoff team and frankly Shesty 2 starts were rather ordinary. He's about as good as the other 2. The beat 2 good teams but lost to 3 good teams and 1 great team. Scoring has never been the problem. This team isn't good enough not to sell. Bingo, Bango, Bongo!! The Rangers are only 5 points behind Florida, but they're also only 8 points ahead of Ottawa. It's stacked tight down there! I think we're #22 in the league as of today. That gives us #10 currently overall in this year's draft. If we can obtain another #1, and maybe sell off some of our soon to be free agents, we may be able to load the pipeline up even more in this upcoming draft. From what the analysts are saying it's shaping up to be a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Technically speaking, there's nothing stopping them from selling and still being a potential wildcard team. That's likely to be the case regardless of what they do. Does anyone honestly believe this team is a lottery club? I'd argue that's just as likely/unlikely as them being a winning playoff club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Technically speaking, there's nothing stopping them from selling and still being a potential wildcard team. That's likely to be the case regardless of what they do. Does anyone honestly believe this team is a lottery club? I'd argue that's just as likely/unlikely as them being a winning playoff club. Oh absolutely Phil!! In a perfect world that's exactly what I'd like to see. I've been debating all along that guys like Georgiev, Kreider and D'Angelo would be an addition by subtraction. In return for those guys, we could possibly get some solid pieces to what the team actually needs, and we can even take a shot at the playoffs. Fact is, and I know you know this...we can't re-sign everyone. And even though there are guys to consider resigning (Strome-term depending, Fast, yeah I've come full circle on him ;))...I think the rest we'd be better without...but that's just me. This team in my opinion needs more size, physicality/toughness, and better defensive play going forward. Georgiev, Kreider and D'Angelo are very valuable assets right now that we can use to obtain a good supply of needs to this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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