Phil Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Link: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pws85nyr Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 $7 million. Jesus. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Glad it?s not the rangers Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 OP and title updated with contract details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 Philly creating themselves a two year window when they’re already on the outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 That?s a lot of dough for AV to not play you Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Wow. A lot of money flying around this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Good luck with thinking Kreider is taking 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 It's not an issue on AAV. As usual, it's years. Kevin Hayes at $7 million is expensive, but probably fine. Kevin Hayes through to the age of 34 is unsettling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 HA! What a fucking joke of a contract that is. Cracked 50 points once. Yikes. Cannot wait to hate him even harder for the next 7 years. Dudes a bum. PS if this is what Kreiders looking for he can get lost. You don’t bog down cap space with mediocre players. That’s how you run your team into the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Hayes? highest career point total was last season with the majority of it playing shut down center on a lottery team. Thinking 7.14m is an over payment is laughable. As Phil stated, the term is what?s hard to swallow, but if Hayes continues a shut down role while producing decent points and you end up with something that might be a very low end Patrice Bergeron, then it?s ok to pay him 7.14m. This deal could end up being a low key steal. Also, Hayes and I have the same dealer so, I?ll get off my cloud now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Hayes has shown the ability to play a very solid two way game. Philly now has two real solid centers (Couturier) that can do just that and will be on the ice close to 48 minutes a game. I think this is a good signing for Philly. I don't like the years at all but I think Hayes on the open market might have gotten that anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 Nolan Patrick 3rd line center. What a bust! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Hayes has shown the ability to play a very solid two way game. Philly now has two real solid centers (Couturier) that can do just that and will be on the ice close to 48 minutes a game. I think this is a good signing for Philly. I don't like the years at all but I think Hayes on the open market might have gotten that anyway. Centers play 24 minutes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYR2711 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Way to much money and term for him. Glad it was them and not us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 One more less worry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Centers play 24 minutes? Between the two with special team play...gotta be close to that. Couturier averaged over 22 minutes last year so I'm sure several games he was over 24. Hayes, after that big contract, would be expected to take a jump up in ice time. How about 44 minutes a game then? Better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 HA! What a fucking joke of a contract that is. Cracked 50 points once. Yikes. Cannot wait to hate him even harder for the next 7 years. Dudes a bum. PS if this is what Kreiders looking for he can get lost. You don’t bog down cap space with mediocre players. That’s how you run your team into the ground. We've seen Hayes' play the last two years. Does anyone really think he's gonna score less than 50 points centering JVR and Voracek? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 We've seen Hayes' play the last two years. Does anyone really think he's gonna score less than 50 points centering JVR and Voracek? He?s cracked 50 pts once in 5 years In the NHL. And this contract is from age 27-34 NHL players simply don?t improve during those ages. He may have 1-2 years of almost decent production for that contract, (7 million for 50 pts is still terrible)....but after that this could be a albatross when he hits 30. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 He’s cracked 50 pts once in 5 years In the NHL. And this contract is from age 27-34 NHL players simply don’t improve during those ages. He may have 1-2 years of almost decent production for that contract, (7 million for 50 pts is still terrible)....but after that this could be a albatross when he hits 30. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk you can say that about any UFA who signs a long term contract. so whats the other option, not ever sign a free agent to a long term deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 you can say that about any UFA who signs a long term contract. so whats the other option, not ever sign a free agent to a long term deal? Don?t expect 40-50 pt players to magically become 50-60 point players. History shows us past age 26 is where production trends down. Panarin per example is not a 40-50 pt Player, and worth a ton. I just don?t expect him to start reaching 110-130 pts at this age Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 $7 million. Jesus. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Not going to pretend I've combed over the comparable salary cap numbers of 50 point 2nd line centers but first blush looks like a really big number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 Don’t expect 40-50 pt players to magically become 50-60 point players. History shows us past age 26 is where production trends down. Panarin per example is not a 40-50 pt Player, and worth a ton. I just don’t expect him to start reaching 110-130 pts at this age Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk soooo.... TRADE ZIBANEJAD!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 soooo.... TRADE ZIBANEJAD!! Zib is over 7m per season and under contract with us till age 34? Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Don’t expect 40-50 pt players to magically become 50-60 point players. History shows us past age 26 is where production trends down. Panarin per example is not a 40-50 pt Player, and worth a ton. I just don’t expect him to start reaching 110-130 pts at this age Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Hayes right now is a 55 point two way center. IMO he's worth $7M per. you're worried about paying him $7M when he's 34-35 years old, but that's the nature of the beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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