RangersIn7 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 He wasn't a reach at all. But he's not a Seguin/Eichel #2. As of now, no. Totally understand that people are down or discouraged or whatever on him. But no reason to believe he won’t be fantastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 As of now, no. Totally understand that people are down or discouraged or whatever on him. But no reason to believe he won?t be fantasticThink so? I think it's hard to be fantastic in a speed league when you can't skate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliveIn94 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 As of now, no. Totally understand that people are down or discouraged or whatever on him. But no reason to believe he won?t be fantasticI'd be happy if he was a consistent 65-70 point player. Him Zib and Panarin would be augmented by our defense prospects if they turn out well. Sent from my Z981 using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMinutesForNothing Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 His skating will improve now that he's in our system and they know they need to focus on it. He thinks the game and moves like Kevin Hayes but with more talent. Hayes took some time. When you play a patience game it's hard to impress when you're so young and new to the top league in the world. Still think Kakko will be great. He's 18 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMinutesForNothing Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Also guys like Pavelski, Brock Nelson, Bobby Ryan, Tavares, Matt Tkachuk, Corey Perry, Anders Lee, Laine, Mark Stone are just a few of the guys that do quite well while having average to below average skating. I think it just takes a bit more time to adjust to the league when you can't fly around. I think Stone is great comparison for Kakko while Kakko may be a bit more physical as he matures... http://www.sportsforecaster.com/nhl/player/8406 Mark Stone Has great hands and the knowledge to go to prime scoring areas. Is deadly from in close, but also has an accurate shot. Also displays great hockey sense on offense and an active stick on defense. Does not always make the best use of his 6-3 frame, and he generally lacks a nasty streak. While he gets to where he needs to be, his skating is below-average for the National Hockey League level. Long Range Potential: Excellent, cagey scoring winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Think so? I think it's hard to be fantastic in a speed league when you can't skate. I don’t know What I do know is that he’s still a teenager and had yet to really grow into his body or approach the highest point of his physical abilities. That’s among him already having to make a huge adjustment. We will see. Though I do agree that his skating is an issue. As is his physical strength. Both can be improved. And everyone knew that his speed was never going to be the hinge upon which his success swung. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Strangely, Kakko’s skating was absolutely fine until he got to NY and they stressed the short choppy strides. Best thing for his game would be moving to the Left wing for a bit. Let’s him play with the puck a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Also guys like Pavelski, Brock Nelson, Bobby Ryan, Tavares, Matt Tkachuk, Corey Perry, Anders Lee, Laine, Mark Stone are just a few of the guys that do quite well while having average to below average skating. I think it just takes a bit more time to adjust to the league when you can't fly around. I think Stone is great comparison for Kakko while Kakko may be a bit more physical as he matures... http://www.sportsforecaster.com/nhl/player/8406 It’s about making your skating effective at the nhl level. Ryan Callahan was said to be a fast skater by rangers fans. He’s not fast at all, he just made his skating effective for his game. Marc Staal had great speed until about 2 yeas ago. You will never hear that from a rangers fan. Zuccarello is slow as shit. Stepan, too. Panarin’s speed is average for a winger. Kakko will figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 It?s about making your skating effective at the nhl level. Ryan Callahan was said to be a fast skater by rangers fans. He?s not fast at all, he just made his skating effective for his game. Marc Staal had great speed until about 2 yeas ago. You will never hear that from a rangers fan. Zuccarello is slow as shit. Stepan, too. Panarin?s speed is average for a winger. Kakko will figure it out. Also there's about six players on that list that have been terrible since the league got fast. Specifically Laine and Stone are players who live on their shot, where Kakko does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlairBettsBlocksEverything Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 What do you think Buffalo fans would say to you if you said this about Eichel after a shit rookie year? Kakko was totally oversold. That much is clear. Now the question is what's his ceiling. Nik Antropov? That's disappointing. you can't honestly tell me you think Kakko's ceiling is Antropov can you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 you can't honestly tell me you think Kakko's ceiling is Antropov can you?I don't know what it is. Is it crazy to think he'll be a 60 point player who always leaves you wanting more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 I don't know what it is. Is it crazy to think he'll be a 60 point player who always leaves you wanting more? No. It's also not crazy to think he can be a 90 point franchise player. It's too early, but it can go either direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 I don't know what it is. Is it crazy to think he'll be a 60 point player who always leaves you wanting more? Crazy? No. Early? Yes. Just saying, it’s not time to worry yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Crazy? No. Early? Yes. Just saying, it?s not time to worry yet.I dunno. There were never sparks of anything to make me believe he's offensively explosive. Honestly, Chytil is more dynamic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMinutesForNothing Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 I dunno. There were never sparks of anything to make me believe he's offensively explosive. Honestly, Chytil is more dynamic. I know what you're saying because I saw the same most of the time, but when I think about his potential I think about that little stretch right before he got hurt and that game where he scored the OT winner and seemed to kind of take over the last part of that game. I saw sparks there. Then he was derailed like the next game I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 I dunno. There were never sparks of anything to make me believe he's offensively explosive. Honestly, Chytil is more dynamic. Yeah I get where you’re coming from. I’m not wowed either at this point. But I never put much stock in the rookie year of a teenager. I’m happy to wait and see what progress he makes and see where he’s at at around 200 games, unless it’s blatantly obvious, before I make up my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Maybe dealing Keane wasn't that great of an idea? They really don't have anyone else to throw in there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 I dunno. There were never sparks of anything to make me believe he's offensively explosive. Honestly, Chytil is more dynamic. So is Letteiri. It's a tiny aspect of an NHL player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 So is Letteiri. It's a tiny aspect of an NHL player. No, he's not, and I have no idea where you're going with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Just wondering. With this likely known a while ago, why didn't they off Nico Gross a contract? They could use that depth with Rykov potentially not in their plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Lindgren, Robertson, Miller, Hajek Rykov, Reunanen, Zac Jones Crawley, Ragnarsson Gross Plus, they either need to move a RHD or someone is playing the left side: Trouba, Fox, Lundkvist, Deangelo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Lindgren, Robertson, Miller, Hajek Rykov, Reunanen, Zac Jones Crawley, Ragnarsson Gross Plus, they either need to move a RHD or someone is playing the left side: Trouba, Fox, Lundkvist, Deangelo Just saw your response. 4 of those players have questionable futures with the team. Rykov... Yeah see OP Hajek. Not sounding like they are confident in him either Crawley is AHL fodder Reunanen is a long shot. They certainly could use the depth up and down the tiers of the organization. Plus, I was talking ng about playoff depth for this year. At this point, I don't think the Rangers can be too sure about any prospect and let such a prospect walk for nothing. If he is good. It's an asset. If not. He's Sean Day and he goes off to Tampa and becomes a first pairing stud (lol). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Just saw your response. 4 of those players have questionable futures with the team. Rykov... Yeah see OP Hajek. Not sounding like they are confident in him either Crawley is AHL fodder Reunanen is a long shot. They certainly could use the depth up and down the tiers of the organization. Plus, I was talking ng about playoff depth for this year. At this point, I don't think the Rangers can be too sure about any prospect and let such a prospect walk for nothing. If he is good. It's an asset. If not. He's Sean Day and he goes off to Tampa and becomes a first pairing stud (lol). We should have kept Gross? Because... Reunanen is a long shot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMorganBarron Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Gross was a mistake, they never should have drafted him, should have taken a forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Gross was a mistake, they never should have drafted him, should have taken a forward. Gross was a 4th round pick. "Should have taken a forward" ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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