siddious Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 that opening scene though. oh my god!!! Yea I rewatched it this morning during breakfast it was so good haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 More poop than I expected, tbh. This was a good season intro. Covered a lot of ground and was at least entertaining enough that it didn't have just the feel of a catchup episode. I'd imagine things are going to move very, very quickly now. The stage is now set for Jon to meet Dany, Bran to, essentially, be the three eyed raven, and for the Hound to go north of the wall. That's a lot to cover in one ep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Dreamer Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Too much Sam for just one episode :thumbsdown:, but overall it was nice enough for a start into the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 18, 2017 Author Share Posted July 18, 2017 Speaking of Sam... http://on.mash.to/2vxD92U Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Speaking of Sam... http://on.mash.to/2vxD92U Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk That would require a lot of time spent on Sam helping Jorah, especially since Jorah doesn't really have a place in the show anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 That would require a lot of time spent on Sam helping Jorah, especially since Jorah doesn't really have a place in the show anymore. If Jorah doesn't have a place in the show anymore, then why even have show him there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 If Jorah doesn't have a place in the show anymore, then why even have show him there? Idk, I thought it was dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Because (as mentioned before) dragon glass heals his condition, it's shown in the same episode. It's almost like they have professional writers. Which could imply he still has a place in the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Because (as mentioned before) dragon glass heals his condition, it's shown in the same episode. It's almost like they have professional writers. Which could imply he still has a place in the show. No kidding. What I'm saying is that he doesn't add anything. He has a place, technically, but he doesn't need to, so the whole scene was pointless and any time spent on Sam finding out how to treat him is a colossal waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 That would require a lot of time spent on Sam helping Jorah, especially since Jorah doesn't really have a place in the show anymore. How do you know that? Obviously, if they're keeping him around he will have some sort of purpose to the remaining story. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 How do you know that? Obviously, if they're keeping him around he will have some sort of purpose to the remaining story. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Why? He's never had a particular purpose. He has no influence over the plot and never really has. I mean what do you think's going to happen - he's going to show up and kill Jon Snow or somethign? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 YO! Nymeria, tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Why? He's never had a particular purpose. He has no influence over the plot and never really has. I mean what do you think's going to happen - he's going to show up and kill Jon Snow or somethign? I think its pretty obvious he has a purpose... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I think its pretty obvious he has a purpose... Which is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Which is? Don't you think he's going to somehow come back to Daenerys? Probably save her in some way? Or give her information about dragon glass? Dude could have a huge role in this whole thing. He's got a hard on for Daenerys. Good or bad, he's totally not out of the story. IMO a major factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Don't you think he's going to somehow come back to Daenerys? Probably save her in some way? Or give her information about dragon glass? Dude could have a huge role in this whole thing. He's got a hard on for Daenerys. Good or bad, he's totally not out of the story. IMO a major factor. That's not a role. That's just carrying along a character for an "a-ha" moment. There's nothing that he could influence that couldn't happen without him being there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 That's not a role. That's just carrying along a character for an "a-ha" moment. There's nothing that he could influence that couldn't happen without him being there. How is that any different than Theon, Brienne, Greyworm, Missandre, Tormund and a host of others? At this point, you could argue that Danny, John, Cersei and the Night King are the only characters who are vital to the story. Everyone else is just helping them move along towards wherever they'll ultimately end up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Dreamer Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Yh, the biggest "waste of time" is probably the upcoming Littlefinger-subplot. Ok Episode this week, wasn't too big on the action parts, though sure got rid of some annoying people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 How is that any different than Theon, Brienne, Greyworm, Missandre, Tormund and a host of others? At this point, you could argue that Danny, John, Cersei and the Night King are the only characters who are vital to the story. Everyone else is just helping them move along towards wherever they'll ultimately end up. I would say that, like Jorah, Theon and Brienne both get too much screen time and don't really add anything. Greyworm, Missandre and Tormund at least have a specific "job" that pushes Dany and Jon towards the Night King. But the thing that's strikingly different about Jorah from all of these folks is that, his arc could be over. Like Gendry rowing off into oblivion never to be heard from again (probably), the show is not any better because they didn't do the same with Jorah. Had the last we ever seen him been Dany sending him off, we'd be fine. The others are all a part of the setting now and it's no inconvenience to show them, but to get to Jorah, he has to have his own specific plot line. That seems like a waste of time. Are we dying to see how Daario and the Sons are ruling? Does anybody miss Jaqen H'ghar? Bronn? I mean, the Jorah plot has gotten more screen time than Bran. For what it's worth, I think that this season is going to get rid of a lot of these ancillary characters. The show is barreling towards next season being all about fighting the Night King, and these plotlines are going to have to go away. The opportunity to do that with Jorah was already there, so I don't understand why he's involved now. I mean, if they want him to fight in the North, they could have re-introduced him 8 or 9 episodes from now, given two minutes to how he and Sam healed him, and been all caught up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 Given episode two's story advance, Jorah's purpose is to progress Samwell's understanding and practice of using dragonglass, which itself is going to be a critical resource in the War to Come. Also, Gendry will return this season, as I understand it. If you recall, he is one of only a handful of swordsmiths in Westeros who know how to forge Valyrian steel, which is going to be a critical component of weaponizing the realm against the Wights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 31, 2017 Author Share Posted July 31, 2017 This pace is incredible. Oh, you're not a critical player? Time to die! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Given episode two's story advance, Jorah's purpose is to progress Samwell's understanding and practice of using dragonglass, which itself is going to be a critical resource in the War to Come. Also, Gendry will return this season, as I understand it. If you recall, he is one of only a handful of swordsmiths in Westeros who know how to forge Valyrian steel, which is going to be a critical component of weaponizing the realm against the Wights. Also, to affirm the belief / understanding of dragon glass' abilities. It's also possible that the disease could be used as a weapon and/or Valyria could ve salvaged which has steel worth more than the Royal bank, who won't be backing her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Given episode two's story advance, Jorah's purpose is to progress Samwell's understanding and practice of using dragonglass, which itself is going to be a critical resource in the War to Come. Also, Gendry will return this season, as I understand it. If you recall, he is one of only a handful of swordsmiths in Westeros who know how to forge Valyrian steel, which is going to be a critical component of weaponizing the realm against the Wights. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but that would give Dany just about 1 representative (in some form) from every major family? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Dreamer Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 This is getting a bit silly, now Euron hass time to be in three places at the same time basically, while Tyrion demonstrates that he might be a politician, but is a horrible strategos, though of course no one could predict a teleporting fleet. And Bran could at least TRY to explain stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 This is getting a bit silly, now Euron hass time to be in three places at the same time basically, while Tyrion demonstrates that he might be a politician, but is a horrible strategos, though of course no one could predict a teleporting fleet. And Bran could at least TRY to explain stuff. In all fairness they didn't show Euron at casterly rock so it may have just been a part of his fleet. I was more concerned with how fast he had built those ships after yara took off with a bunch of them. I don't get too upset over the "jet-packing" though, the shows producers said they may have to do some of it since the show only has a handful of episodes left and there is still a ton of story to tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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