Keirik Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 No, because that’s not how you run a hockey team. I would only start him if I thought he gave the team the best chance to win. I mean, it’s moot anyway because it would never happen like that. How many hockey teams have you ran? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Want Hank to have his swan song but more importantly, I want the COVID CUP!! It's the name on the front of the sweater that matters. Give Shesterkin game 1. If he is lights out, keep him in. If he sucks, Hank gets a shot. The man thrives on competition. Could be a great scenario either way if Shesty gets game 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 How many hockey teams have you ran? Lol Not many. Lol But you don't need extensive GM experience to understand that the idea is completely far fetched. - The GM goes to the player and says "look, we want you to retire. If we give you the starting job for the playoff, will you promise to hang up your skates?". I mean, you're asking the player to void the last year of his contract for a handout. I don't know Lundqvist personally, but I feel pretty confident he's not wired in a way in which something like that would be even remotely acceptable. - The GM then goes to the coach and says "you're playing Lundqvist in the playoffs because I made a I deal that he would retire and clear cap space for us if he gets the starting job". How is a coach expected to run his hockey team and retain some form of meritocracy and competitive environment if the GM starts bartering playoff ice time for solving contractual issues? It's pretty obviously not how you run a professional sports team. As a pure hypothetical, "would you accept Hank in net in the play-in if it meant he rode off into the sunset afterwards" then yeah, I suppose so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodrigueGabriel Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Not many. Lol But you don't need extensive GM experience to understand that the idea is completely far fetched. - The GM goes to the player and says "look, we want you to retire. If we give you the starting job for the playoff, will you promise to hang up your skates?". I mean, you're asking the player to void the last year of his contract for a handout. I don't know Lundqvist personally, but I feel pretty confident he's not wired in a way in which something like that would be even remotely acceptable. - The GM then goes to the coach and says "you're playing Lundqvist in the playoffs because I made a I deal that he would retire and clear cap space for us if he gets the starting job". How is a coach expected to run his hockey team and retain some form of meritocracy and competitive environment if the GM starts bartering playoff ice time for solving contractual issues? It's pretty obviously not how you run a professional sports team. As a pure hypothetical, "would you accept Hank in net in the play-in if it meant he rode off into the sunset afterwards" then yeah, I suppose so. On the Gravesy train here. JD said it is totally Quinn's decision. It's not Quinn's job to worry about next year's cap. All the body language here says that they are focused on the series. I know shit happens behind the scenes, but making a side deal with Hank about who plays based on 20-21 cap considerations would be a wildly erratic move based on what they have said they want to do in this situation. Just don't think JD would operate that way. Igor starts Game 1, then it's game by game based on performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted July 29, 2020 Author Share Posted July 29, 2020 Not many. Lol But you don't need extensive GM experience to understand that the idea is completely far fetched. - The GM goes to the player and says "look, we want you to retire. If we give you the starting job for the playoff, will you promise to hang up your skates?". I mean, you're asking the player to void the last year of his contract for a handout. I don't know Lundqvist personally, but I feel pretty confident he's not wired in a way in which something like that would be even remotely acceptable. - The GM then goes to the coach and says "you're playing Lundqvist in the playoffs because I made a I deal that he would retire and clear cap space for us if he gets the starting job". How is a coach expected to run his hockey team and retain some form of meritocracy and competitive environment if the GM starts bartering playoff ice time for solving contractual issues? It's pretty obviously not how you run a professional sports team. As a pure hypothetical, "would you accept Hank in net in the play-in if it meant he rode off into the sunset afterwards" then yeah, I suppose so. Ask Torts how far fetched it is for management to reach out to players lik Henrik lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 To “reach out” is a pretty wide definition of things you can ask a player, this is a very specific scenario related to bartering ice time in net in the playoffs with a contractual issue. I find the suggestion ludicrous, but whatever. Let’s agree to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 I was in the Seshty camp, but after seeing how engaged and focused Hank looked last night, I'd lean toward a last hurrah for the Old War Horse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 I was in the Seshty camp, but after seeing how engaged and focused Hank looked last night, I'd lean toward a last hurrah for the Old War Horse. I also think Lundqvist looked better last night, besides that goal. But, I think, if he had a chance to be the starter, he would have gotten the start yesterday. Give him a chance to enter that game with a starters mindset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted July 31, 2020 Author Share Posted July 31, 2020 All aboard team Hank! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Igor gave up one goal off a defensive eff up. Hank got beat by a clean shot. Not sure how anyone draws any great conclusions from that small a sample. Igor was the better goalie during the season, and the team played better in front of him by every metric. Igor gets game one and you go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Igor gave up one goal off a defensive eff up. Hank got beat by a clean shot. Not sure how anyone draws any great conclusions from that small a sample. Igor was the better goalie during the season, and the team played better in front of him by every metric. Igor gets game one and you go from there.Are you kidding? Igor got beat short side blocker... On a clean shot...? like I said, eager will have a long and successful career, and I like him... It's no secret that I'm a huge Hank fan... But to say what you're saying is just incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted July 31, 2020 Author Share Posted July 31, 2020 It’s a weird year. We’ve come full circle. One last kick at the can. And in goal, number 30...Hennnnrikkkk Lundqvistttttttttttt!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Are you kidding? Igor got beat short side blocker... On a clean shot...? like I said, eager will have a long and successful career, and I like him... It's no secret that I'm a huge Hank fan... But to say what you're saying is just incorrect. So we should discount Igor's superior W/L, GAA, save % and overall play in the regular season. Instead Quinn should, on the basis of one exhibition game in which they both gave up a single goal, start Lundqvist, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 This isn't based on one exhibition game. It is based on hunches. In any event, if we lose one of the first two games, we will probably see the other goalie, so the chances are good that both will see action in this series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted July 31, 2020 Author Share Posted July 31, 2020 This isn't based on one exhibition game. It is based on hunches. In any event, if we lose one of the first two games, we will probably see the other goalie, so the chances are good that both will see action in this series. Not if they start Henrik and sweep :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 So we should discount Igor's superior W/L, GAA, save % and overall play in the regular season. Instead Quinn should, on the basis of one exhibition game in which they both gave up a single goal, start Lundqvist, right?I'm simply pointing out your completely off base assessment of the goal scored in the last game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 I’m not sure it’s fair to the goalies to not name a starter well in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodrigueGabriel Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 I?m not sure it?s fair to the goalies to not name a starter well in advance.I'd bet that they know. Sent from my SM-G970U using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Yeah, I would think the team knows Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resmd Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 This 'season' has been so weird, that IMO a lot of things go out the window. Before this abomination of an interrupted season, in normal circumstances, I'd go Igor 100%. But this sh*t is weird and unprecedented, and I would TOTALLY understand if they start Hank game 1. Hank loses, then start Igor 2 & 3. Or start Igor and put the stake in Hank. Odds are, both will play in this series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Whomever starts Game 1, if he gives up like 3 goals in the 1st period, I expect him to get yanked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 Gifted the playoffs , you have to play Henrik. It?s karma and actually the balsy choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 HENRIK!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 Absolutely the right decision! Glad Quincy listened to us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Absolutely the right decision! Glad Quincy listened to us �� Igor is injured, but carry on :thumbs: Huge opportunity for Henrik to stake his claim now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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