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    Too Early to Start the 'Fire Quinn' Thread?

    Lines combination is very questionable as well as his choice of players from the camp. For more than a year cannot teach how to play team defense. Guys running around like headless chickens. Kakko looks lost. Game with Washington with 2 min to go and empty net he plays his arguably the most talented player panarin on blue line alongside trouba. How the hell was he supposed to score from there? Previous game with devs in similar situation he has smith in ice. Cause heís prolific scorer? Nobody on the team progresses. And so on and so forth. Is it too early to get rid of him?

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    He's definitely showing some cracks in the armor but I don't think his camp choices were wrong.

    The team definitely looks confused. The defense always has.

    It's concerning considering how much time they've had to practice.

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    Gotta give him some time, for better or worse. At minimum it will be this season, but the reality is that it'll will be at least until US Thanksgiving next year.

    He didn't handcuff the team with all the dumb contracts, and make no mistake, all the past sins are still haunting the team, that mismanagement has caused a complete gutting of the meager depth we had and the Trouba contract was just a swap. Now we have a legitimate minute eating D man, and no Centreman to replace Hayes.

    Staal is an anchor
    Skjei is an anchor
    Hank is an anchor
    Smith is an anchor

    Still paying Girardi, Shattenkirk, Beleskey. It all adds up to Michael Haley, Greg Mckegg and Brendan Smith as essentially half your bottom six.

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    We're not a patient group in the Big Apple. The pain suffered leading up to the 'rebuild letter' contributes to the length of time everyone is feeling that this turn-around is taking. Still, we need to allow time for this rebuild to happen IMO. A couple of wins got us excited (falsely) and the recent losses has us setting up the hanging platform (premature) instead of saddling up for a decently long ride ahead.

    Here is what I'm looking for this season:
    1. Entertainment - Do we make plays that give me hope?
    2. More wins than losses - Sample size is too small right now, let's talk again at Christmas.
    3. Progress? - Grey area to define and this is where we'll all debate on BSBH before and after every game. What's the paradigm we can agree on?
    4. Young guys growing into roles - Jury out and rightly should be as it's too early for a verdict.
    5. Effective Defense - Yup, that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunny View Post
    Gotta give him some time, for better or worse. At minimum it will be this season, but the reality is that it'll will be at least until US Thanksgiving next year.

    He didn't handcuff the team with all the dumb contracts, and make no mistake, all the past sins are still haunting the team, that mismanagement has caused a complete gutting of the meager depth we had and the Trouba contract was just a swap. Now we have a legitimate minute eating D man, and no Centreman to replace Hayes.

    Staal is an anchor
    Skjei is an anchor
    Hank is an anchor
    Smith is an anchor

    Still paying Girardi, Shattenkirk, Beleskey. It all adds up to Michael Haley, Greg Mckegg and Brendan Smith as essentially half your bottom six.
    This is a huge problem, and this exact scenario is why I wanted him on a 2 year bridge deal last summer. He's as average and inconsistent of a defenseman as he was when he signed the deal. He's a good skater and the Rangers banked on him improving the other aspects of his game. Here we are, still waiting for that progress to take place while we have to hope he isn't another anchor contract for the next 5 years. The lack of progress he has made is exacerbated by the fact he is still probably our best LHD.

    If I was Gorton, I'd be doing about anything I can to land a solid LHD for Kreider. It could be a 2nd pairing guy, just anyone more dependable defensively to stick with Trouba. See if Skjei can progress without the pressure of essentially needing to be the #1 LHD, because that's not what he is. Try to move on from Skjei if he doesn't progress this year.
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    It could be 5 more years to bear some fruit. That's not that crazy. Just look at Vancouver. Buffalo. Florida.

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    Yes, it’s too early.
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    Little early for any of this

    Besides, they’re not going anywhere in terms of being a contender this season as is.

    We all should accept the reality that this is another season of growing despite the additions they’ve made. The likelihood of them making the playoffs is small. Deep playoff run even smaller.

    And we’re still less than 10% through the season

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    Theyíve barely played, itís definitely too early for this thread.
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    It is still early but the team has no structure. They played the same way last year.

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    It’s too early, but I’m not going to lie.
    I’m not at all convinced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravesy View Post
    It’s too early, but I’m not going to lie.
    I’m not at all convinced.
    That’s fair

    Previous poster mentioned the amount of practice time . That element of this does concern me

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    Classic thread. Probably part of the reason I have to stop coming here sooner rather than later.
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    I see that majority consensus here is to wait and see. Points you guys made are strong and valid. But what bothers me is the fact that we are burning one out of three years contract of num. 2 prospect in the world, where his salary cap hit is slightly above 900k. Also, I believe it’s a last year of Georgiev’s contract.
    I was looking at recent trade/buyout casualties’ stats and its interesting how they all, obviously so far, are playing better, than in New York.
    Shattenkirk 4g 1a
    Pionk 2g 4a
    Namestnikov 2g 2a- all points since his trade to Ottawa
    Isn't that the reason to be concerned that Quinn wasn’t able to find right use and playing partners for them? Which in turn definitely had contributed to their departure from the team.

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    My pitchfork is at the ready but way too soon to pick it up.

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    Jimmy Vesey 1A - 1 point
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    Too early to pull the trigger but not impressed even a little with how he manages the games/lines etc. Not sure I've seen improvement anywhere since he arrived. I'm pretty confident he'll get a free pass well into next season if not through the end of it. He certainly doesn't inspire any confidence in my opinion of him. Oh well.

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    Probably too early for it, but if they fired him tomorrow I wouldn't be upset. I just don't think he's cut out for the job.

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    Quinn is a Gorton / Sather guy, he is not, however, a JD guy so I think his leash may just be a little shorter than some of you guys are saying. Like you guys, I too have never been impressed with the product he puts on the ice. The team is still constantly pinned in the d zone, they score a goal and give it back almost immediately on many occasions, always have a poor power play, poor defensive execution and terrible break out schemes. And what is with our #2 overall pick? Have they even coached him up at all? I know it is early and they will need time to gel as they have played like 3 games in 4 weeks it seems, but they have practiced an awful lot, but it does not look like it LOL.

    Honestly, if coach Q was still out there I would have made the change already, but now, who out there is better at this point?

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    Bro we're a week into the season...
    Quote Originally Posted by Art20c View Post
    I see that majority consensus here is to wait and see. Points you guys made are strong and valid. But what bothers me is the fact that we are burning one out of three years contract of num. 2 prospect in the world, where his salary cap hit is slightly above 900k. Also, I believe itís a last year of Georgievís contract.
    I was looking at recent trade/buyout casualtiesí stats and its interesting how they all, obviously so far, are playing better, than in New York.
    Shattenkirk 4g 1a
    Pionk 2g 4a
    Namestnikov 2g 2a- all points since his trade to Ottawa
    Isn't that the reason to be concerned that Quinn wasnít able to find right use and playing partners for them? Which in turn definitely had contributed to their departure from the team.

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