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    Tinfoil hat me believes that the goal is to lose early, so that when the kids are getting better ice time, they get to play in a 'no-pressure' situation and hopefully they help the team rally to get closer to a playoff spot, and maybe having confidence and a full summer to be ready for 20-21
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlairBettsBlocksEverything View Post
    Tinfoil hat me believes that the goal is to lose early, so that when the kids are getting better ice time, they get to play in a 'no-pressure' situation and hopefully they help the team rally to get closer to a playoff spot, and maybe having confidence and a full summer to be ready for 20-21
    Quinn didnt want to lose last season. No chance he's suddenly on-board with it now.
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    thats why its tinfoil hat me and not actual me
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    Quinn is really starting to make me sick. I'm wondering if he's an ego maniac who thinks his own system and culture takes precedence over most effectively utilizing the talent this team has - and there's plenty of it - with whatever system and culture fits.

    The latest finnish Kakko article is a red flag. This is not some immature rookie as far as I can tell - he's an up and coming world class talent who's being coached by a college level amateur.

    How Panarin and Zibanejad weren't split up from the very beginning...and still not?!? even as just about every single other combination has been messed around with?!? makes absolutely no f'n sense - especially when you have the opportunity to facilitate the development of a talent like kakko by putting him alongside one of those two.

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    Im starting that thread if I see Smith in the top 9, Andersson on the 4th line and Chytil in the A 1 more week.

    I hate to be that guy, but this is getting ridiculous. Kakko being benched in the 3rd while Kreider gets 1st line minutes after playing dog shit the entire season? How is that gonna teach a young guy to play better? Lias is working hard and has been playing decent in the little time he’s got - he is still on the 4th line (played 5 minutes 5v5 tonight), while Howden is still fumbling around on the 2nd/3rd line. Where’s the justice here? And what is he trying to teach these young guys when he bench them and let Kreider and Howden fuck around doing tonight the entire night?


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    Getting to the point where just his attitude and voice aggravates me in these post game interviews. Forget about all the dreadful lineup and ice time decisions he makes on a nightly basis.

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    I wonder what it’s gonna take for Quinn to at least try kakko on 1st line and 1st pp unit? And probably it is about time we call up chytil from Hartford

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    Do any of the beat writers ask these questions?

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    Why was Kakko benched? I’ve had enough of the Harlequinn

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    I'm just glad Smith is getting more ice time than Kakko and Andersson. whose up for getting Tanner Glass back on the team and sending Kakko back to Finland? Seems like a move this organization would do after all.

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    Too Early to Start the 'Fire Quinn' Thread?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slobberknocker View Post
    its like i said in the other thread. he's leaning on the vets because he thinks that gives him the best shot to win games. it's the diff between being an HC and a Fan. I'm fine with the kids coming up, playing sig minutes and going through growing pains. he is not.

    to give him some credit hes forgot more hockey than i know and i'm not in practice but it just seems like to many of these guys coach with a skirt on.
    The kids being on this team are going to make the team that much better. Maybe there is some younger players he's protecting from all the losing because he doesn't think it will make them better.

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    My issue with Quinn isn't results and on-ice product. I expected the Rangers to be bad again - better than last year, but still bad - and I expected the type of run they're currently on.
    The issue for me is that I'm really starting to doubt if he's the guy to move this young, talented group forward. A couple of things comes to mind:

    - I simply disagree with how he runs the ship, his line and roster decisions and his in-game management. It's just an opinion of course, and I don't profess to know more about hockey than he does, but I find myself shaking my head a lot more than I agree with what he's doing.
    - His accountability schtick was refreshing when he came on board, but it seems pretty obvious to me that its application varies according to the name on the back of the shirt.
    - He's a young coach, but in many ways I find his view of the game to be a bit old fashioned. North/south, no fancy shit, get in guys faces, big plugs on the 4th line, "tough guys", what appears to be a total disregard of analytics.
    - Coming in, one of the big selling points was his ability to develop young players. I'm not really seeing that as of yet. I don't think any of the young players have taken significant steps under his tutelage; obviously with the caveat that it's only been a year and change.

    In short, I just don't believe in what he's doing. Maybe it's harsh, and maybe it's a total knee jerk. Maybe a lot of it is based on organizational decisions and not the coach. Maybe he has a grand plan that I'm not seeing. I really liked him in the early going, but tbh I'm really struggling to get behind what's going on.

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    I have a some issues with Quinn.
    -If we are supposed to be in a rebuild and developing the kids, then win or loose give the kids minutes and let them play.
    -Chytil has 8 points in 6 games in Hartford, If you believe he is your future, bring him up and let him get 2nd line center minutes.
    -The argument for sending Kratsov down was to give him more minutes, but he is not even playing on a top 6 line in Hartford, not surrounded by talent and not getting minutes so what was the point? I suspect he will go back to the KHL at this point and I don't blame him.
    -Kakko gets no look on the top line despite how he clicked there in preseason.
    -Staal on the top d-pairing, are you kidding me?
    -Line shuffling, the rate at which Quinn shuffles lines, I don't think they will ever be able to build chemistry. Last night I saw a ton of off the mark passes, is that a product of players not used to their line mates? maybe.
    -There does not appear to be any defensive system. We have some talent on D, we should not be as bad as we are
    -He can't seem to be able to get them to play a 60 minute game
    I started out really liking his approach with the players, but lately I dislike his handling of the team, I just don't get it. I am not on the fire him bandwagon yet, but I think its time that Gorton and or JD sit him down and say "Listen, you are supposed to be developing these kids, we dont have an expectation you make the playoffs this year, we want to see the kids play and improve"
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    I think JD has more influence into why players get sent down than Quinn, actually.

    My big complaint about Quinn so far is how disorganized the team looks without the puck.

    As far as Kravtsov in the A... Well there's a reason Chytil is a top liner and Krav isn't. I'll never understand or agree with fans thinking ice time is distributed by talent and not hard work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    I think JD has more influence into why players get sent down than Quinn, actually.

    My big complaint about Quinn so far is how disorganized the team looks without the puck.

    As far as Kravtsov in the A... Well there's a reason Chytil is a top liner and Krav isn't. I'll never understand or agree with fans thinking ice time is distributed by talent and not hard work.
    I agree 100%. A guy can have all the talent in the world, but if he isn't playing a team game and playing all zones, what good is he?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    I think JD has more influence into why players get sent down than Quinn, actually.

    My big complaint about Quinn so far is how disorganized the team looks without the puck.

    As far as Kravtsov in the A... Well there's a reason Chytil is a top liner and Krav isn't. I'll never understand or agree with fans thinking ice time is distributed by talent and not hard work.
    Only quibble is in the limited time they've been allotted both Kakko and Andersson, who both have shown flashes of good stuff. Playing them so little makes no sense. And the workload he's putting on Panarin and Zib is not good for another 70+ games. if you're in a life and death 7 game series, that's one thing. Games in October should be when you throw the kids into the deep end of the pool and find out what they can do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    I think JD has more influence into why players get sent down than Quinn, actually.

    My big complaint about Quinn so far is how disorganized the team looks without the puck.

    As far as Kravtsov in the A... Well there's a reason Chytil is a top liner and Krav isn't. I'll never understand or agree with fans thinking ice time is distributed by talent and not hard work.
    agree regarding the ice time but i don't think Quinn is using the hard work approach to determine ice time. i think he's keeping some of the vets on the ice to try to get them going which in theory should support the youth movement. Unless when he benches Lemieux last night maybe he's over his shoulder saying hey look at Kreider, that's not the way to play....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slobberknocker View Post
    agree regarding the ice time but i don't think Quinn is using the hard work approach to determine ice time. i think he's keeping some of the vets on the ice to try to get them going which in theory should support the youth movement. Unless when he benches Lemieux last night maybe he's over his shoulder saying hey look at Kreider, that's not the way to play....
    I was talking specifically about Kravtsov, but yea agree with you on Quinn and the vets.

    I'm not ready to give up on him, but I'm not convinced he's the right guy, either.

    I mean, if Quinn's the kind of guy who's going to say "You'll play, if you play the way I want you to play, even if you make mistakes or suck..." Then I kinda get it. That's like...ultimate accountability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    I think JD has more influence into why players get sent down than Quinn, actually.

    My big complaint about Quinn so far is how disorganized the team looks without the puck.

    As far as Kravtsov in the A... Well there's a reason Chytil is a top liner and Krav isn't. I'll never understand or agree with fans thinking ice time is distributed by talent and not hard work.
    Kovalev would be a 2nd liner in Hartford in this organization
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