BrooksBurner Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 The problem is that buying out Staal doesn't save near enough money this year compared to Shattenkirk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 The problem is that buying out Staal doesn't save near enough money this year compared to Shattenkirk. It also means your left side is Skjei and two rookies or you're keeping Smith. Shatty saves you the most money and he has no role. It's a no-brainer except for the fact that he still would have a huge cap hit next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 It also means your left side is Skjei and two rookies or you're keeping Smith. Shatty saves you the most money and he has no role. It's a no-brainer except for the fact that he still would have a huge cap hit next year. For me, it's a huge NO-brainer because of his cap hit next season. That's a horrible move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 if he's not bought out, he'll have bigger cap hit next season, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 For me, it's a huge NO-brainer because of his cap hit next season. That's a horrible move. Stuck with the cap hit whether you buy him out or not. Unless you're in the "he'll play his value up to a trade next summer" camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Dead cap hit* plus replacement plus ELC bonuses plus, you dont know where you will be in one season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Stuck with the cap hit whether you buy him out or not. Unless you're in the "he'll play his value up to a trade next summer" camp. You can probably dump his cap hit next offseason - half of it at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Dead cap hit* plus replacement plus ELC bonuses plus, you dont know where you will be in one season yeah but that could be said about either scenario. it could be that his dead cap hit wont mean much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 There has always been conflicting info out there as to whether Staal's NMC is full (ESPN and Brooks have previously reported that it is partial in the last two or three years). In any event, someone might be willing to take him with retention at the deadline this year, and he might be willing to do it, if necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 so sad that no one wants our garbage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 GMs aren't stupid. Waiting for the rangers to buy out Shitenkirk and then sign him for cheap. why trade and lose assets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 GMs aren't stupid. Waiting for the rangers to buy out Shitenkirk and then sign him for cheap. why trade and lose assets? He might not sign with a team like Buffalo. But if he knows he's getting bought out, he might decide he's willing to play there for 2 years to get his money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYR2711 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Dead cap hit* plus replacement plus ELC bonuses plus, you dont know where you will be in one season Replacement isn't an issue, we have a bunch of kids easy to step in that are making less than $1M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 He might not sign with a team like Buffalo. But if he knows he's getting bought out, he might decide he's willing to play there for 2 years to get his money. He gets his money either way, no? Why not get bought out and maybe have a better option for less money per year but it will be on top of his buyout. It's summer and I'm probably missing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 He might not sign with a team like Buffalo. But if he knows he's getting bought out, he might decide he's willing to play there for 2 years to get his money. if he gets bought out he gets all the money owed, right? then he can sign with the highest bidder cause its all gravy. I wish I was an NHLer who got bought out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 He gets his money either way, no? Why not get bought out and maybe have a better option for less money per year but it will be on top of his buyout. It's summer and I'm probably missing something. if he gets bought out he gets all the money owed, right? then he can sign with the highest bidder cause its all gravy. I wish I was an NHLer who got bought out I was under the impression it's 66% of the remaining salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBrowningPI Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Yep, Girardi double dipped with Tampa the last 2 years. Sent from my SM-N900T using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Replacement isn't an issue, we have a bunch of kids easy to step in that are making less than $1M Next season, he has a $2m salary after a $2m signing bonus due July 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 I was under the impression it's 66% of the remaining salary. I thought It was 100% or close to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBrowningPI Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 I thought It was 100% or close to itJust for clarity. Josh is talking about how they arrive at a buyout figure and you're talking about how much of the buyout money they get wether they sign with another team or not? Or I could just be a stupid ass who can't concentrate for more then 20 seconds. Sent from my SM-N900T using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 https://www.dkpittsburghsports.com/2019/06/15/nhl-buyout-period-calculator-penguins-faq-tlh/ A buyout allows the team to greatly reduce the salary cap hit of a player, but the period of time in which a player's contract remains on the books after a buyout is increased. The percentage of salary a team is still responsible for after a buyout depends on the player's age at the time of the buyout. HOW IS THE IMPACT OF A BUYOUT CALCULATED? If a player is older than 26, the team is still responsible for two-thirds of the remaining salary. If a player is younger than 26, the team is only responsible for one-third. Full signing bonuses are still paid out in any case. To be clear: That is salary. Straight cash. Not the salary cap hit. That's calculated differently. https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout-faq Teams are permitted to buyout a players contract to obtain a reduced salary cap hit over a period of twice the remaining length of the contract. The buyout amount is a function of the players age at the time of the buyout, and are as follows: 1/3 of the remaining contract value, if the player is younger than 26 at the time of the buyout 2/3 of the remaining contract value, if the player is 26 or older at the time of the buyout As explained above, the buyout is spread out over a period of twice the remaining length of the contract. The team still takes a caphit, and the caphit by year is calculated as follows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 You were right, Josh. I would rep you but you dont like Putin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Well so much for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 You were right, Josh. I would rep you but you dont like Putin Post of the week!!! :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slobberknocker Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Does anyone think Kreider might get traded? im thinking they do nothing with him. let him step it up in a contract year. if the team is not playoff bound, flip him at the deadline. if they are let him be a part of the run. if you lose him for nothing, wtf... if panarin and tavares were let go for free, what are you really going to gain in a kreider trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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