Puck Head Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I think the greater adjustment will be schedule, living conditions, etc. Most top European players benefit from some time in the AHL. As does pretty much any hockey player. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Fair enough, but that angle can be replicated in an NHL rink..except it will be along the boards and a few feet in from the blueline. The angles don't change, but the time to react to shots from those angles do. I will concede that if a defenseman is playing the boards and takes a shot from the blueline along the boards, it is at a different angle between the two rinks. That's not a shot that happens often though. But how often does a odd-man break have a guy skating through that vicinity? Standing deep in the net, not a whole lot changes, but coming out, cutting down angles, backing up in the goal - things theyve been doing for 25 years - now require important adjustments when you are facing the top scorers in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I don’t mean to sound like a prick, but saying the transition from European to NA ice is something that only takes “a couple of practices and a few games” is extremely ignorant. Speaking as someone who made that move as a C and my brother as a goaltender. It’s the same game but it’s almost as if you’re learning it anew. The time it takes to adjust varies from player to player, but it’s even tougher for a goaltender. It’s a game of inches and the inches change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 OK, and I played on both sizes during the same season every year until Junior. I didn't find it even noteworthy. I'm sure it's a different experience for everyone. Playing in a barn with square corners, that was noteworthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 OK, and I played on both sizes during the same season every year until Junior. I didn't find it even noteworthy. I'm sure it's a different experience for everyone. Playing in a barn with square corners, that was noteworthy. Which is why you're here, doing this, and not that. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Thats all I needed to do to grow 5 inches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Thats all I needed to do to grow 5 inches?Leave your bedroom issues in the bedroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 I don’t mean to sound like a prick, but saying the transition from European to NA ice is something that only takes “a couple of practices and a few games” is extremely ignorant. Speaking as someone who made that move as a C and my brother as a goaltender. It’s the same game but it’s almost as if you’re learning it anew. The time it takes to adjust varies from player to player, but it’s even tougher for a goaltender. It’s a game of inches and the inches change. You maybe right but i’ve never heard anyone making a big deal about the transition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 You maybe right but i?ve never heard anyone making a big deal about the transitionWait, let me get this straight... In a league where players tape their sticks the same way and put their skate on in same order and have same pregame ritual a rink size change is just standard? No... Sorry but no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 U drunk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 U drunk?U! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Getting there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 OK, and I played on both sizes during the same season every year until Junior. I didn't find it even noteworthy. I'm sure it's a different experience for everyone. The fact you did it every season probably has something to do with it. And I imagine as a kid you probably don't care all that much. For my brother and I, playing our whole lives to that point on a bigger sheet and then moving over to play junior hockey at the highest level it's definitely a significant transition. In Shestyorkins case, he'll have played something like 17-18 seasons as a goaltender on a European sheet and making the transition at NHL will obviously take some getting used to. He might be able to make the switch immediately, but I think most goaltenders (and skaters) need some sort of adjustment period to get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBrowningPI Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 I'm really curious why Magnus Hellburg is SKAs starting goalie over Igor in the second round. SKA won the first two games with Hellburg so I guess they figure, why change what's working. I hope Magnus doesn't tell Igor how he hated his NA experience, if he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodrigueGabriel Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 As voiced by Maloney and Giannone, Shestorkin (or his agent) is trying to stipulate in advance where he plays next season as a condition for coming over. Would not seem to be the best look for joining your new team, having not yet played in NA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 I say let him play here next season what do we have to lose? Might as well see what he?s got. I can understand adjusting to the different ice but in terms of seasoning, he?s getting to that age where he?s not really gonna get better playing anywhere but the NHL. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonGecko Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 this idea that the quality is so much better in the AHL than the KHL, because angles, is dumb. For sure, KHL is a much higher skill league than the AHL, it would be pointless to send him to the AHL. He needs to come to training camp and prove his chops and if he holds up then Georgy is getting traded for picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 For sure, KHL is a much higher skill league than the AHL, it would be pointless to send him to the AHL. He needs to come to training camp and prove his chops and if he holds up then Georgy is getting traded for picks I Disagree. I have former players in the KHL, and am close friends with someone who coached up until last season. Overall perhaps a better league due to age, but there are NA players that do very well in the KHL that didn?t do much in AHL. At best the KHL is a slightly more developed league Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Dont forget, he's still a backup next year for SKA. Hellburg signed a 3 year extension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMinutesForNothing Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Good. Trade Georgiev this offseason when his trade value will never be higher. He's a product of Allaire and will flop somewhere else like the rest. It's perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 The KHL is full of players who couldn't have the NHL and we're saying it's a good place to develop goalies? Stop. Also no reason to trade Geogiev if he's a product of Allaire. We have Allaire. Not sure what the issue is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 We don't have room for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMinutesForNothing Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Georgiev is nice, but Shesterkin is the future. Get him here when you have the chance before he signs another multiyear deal there, takes the starting job and delays longer or never comes. Shesterkin must be the organizations priority. If they've known this about Shesty's demands then part the of the reason Georgiev may be getting so many games may be to showcase him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Hanks not going anywhere till he retires and you have your potential starter coming over (hopefully) from Russia, you almost have to move georgiev. Might explain why he?s getting more starts recently. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonGecko Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 The KHL is full of players who couldn't have the NHL and we're saying it's a good place to develop goalies? Stop. Much better place than the AHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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