Pete Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 lol I wasn't disputing that. I'm one of those fans that actually agrees with the idea that he's an overall average QB (Even though numbers wise he's top 10 in some categories) The point I was trying to make was that he still managed to deliver two championships. Which is ultimately what playing the game is about isn't it? You said it yourself, numbers wise Richter and Osgood were average goalies. But what do you think fans think of most when they hear those names? Their stats or what they accomplished? I think I'm just in the minority when it comes to how I view a successful career. :) Oh and before it happens, stfu Mike. I don't want to hear what you have to say. We spoke about this.I'm someone who lives in the moment. Throughout 1994 I never considered Richter lucky. I watched both Super Bowls with Giants fans... The ones I know think they're lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 I'm someone who lives in the moment. Throughout 1994 I never considered Richter lucky. I watched both Super Bowls with Giants fans... The ones I know think they're lucky. Lucky doesn't mean they weren't good. Any team would have had to have some luck to beat an 18-0 Pats team. That doesn't mean the Giants were a bad team or that Eli wasn't a great QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Lucky doesn't mean they weren't good. Any team would have had to have some luck to beat an 18-0 Pats team. That doesn't mean the Giants were a bad team or that Eli wasn't a great QB.No the stats say be wasn't a "great" QB. He was (fortunately) great a couple of times that got him 2 SBs. He was bad other playoffs and average his entire career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 No the stats say be wasn't a "great" QB. He was (fortunately) great a couple of times that got him 2 SBs. He was bad other playoffs and average his entire career. I guess we have two different definitions for average. You choose the incorrect one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bieser Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 It's like there's a third person missing from the argument. The one who overstates how good Eli is. Giants fans more or less have a handle on it. People who don't like the Giants or NY teams or the Mannings kick more dirt on the statement. I don't see these articles telling me how average Terry Bradshaw was. 50 percent completion and as many picks and TD's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 I guess we have two different definitions for average. You choose the incorrect one.Or there's the actual definition of average which Eli was. Seems like you're picking the Fanboy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 It's like there's a third person missing from the argument. The one who overstates how good Eli is. Giants fans more or less have a handle on it. People who don't like the Giants or NY teams or the Mannings kick more dirt on the statement. I don't see these articles telling me how average Terry Bradshaw was. 50 percent completion and as many picks and TD's.Maybe you should open a Terry Bradshaw thread and talk about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 It's like there's a third person missing from the argument. The one who overstates how good Eli is. Giants fans more or less have a handle on it. People who don't like the Giants or NY teams or the Mannings kick more dirt on the statement. I don't see these articles telling me how average Terry Bradshaw was. 50 percent completion and as many picks and TD's. Yup. If you aren't Brady/Peyton/Brees/Rodgers level elite, it's straight to average like Pete says LOL. Imagine having that naive of a viewpoint. Eli has been a very good and top 5-10 QB almost his entire career. HOF worthy given his credentials, but certainly not legendary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Yup. If you aren't Brady/Peyton/Brees/Rodgers level elite, it's straight to average like Pete says LOL. Imagine having that naive of a viewpoint. Eli has been a very good and top 5-10 QB almost his entire career. HOF worthy given his credentials, but certainly not legendary.538 wrote the article. Maybe you should call them naive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 It's like there's a third person missing from the argument. The one who overstates how good Eli is. Giants fans more or less have a handle on it. People who don't like the Giants or NY teams or the Mannings kick more dirt on the statement. I don't see these articles telling me how average Terry Bradshaw was. 50 percent completion and as many picks and TD's.I say the people who over State how good is Eli was are alive and well in this thread. Giants fans clearly do not have a handle on reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 538 wrote the article. Maybe you should call them naive... Tell me more about AY/A INDEX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Tell me more about AY/A INDEX.Tell me more about how you're not a Giants fan, and then therefore completely objective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Falco Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 All right enough. Agree to disagree and move on please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 Let?s go Giants. New era starts today. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Barkley out of the game and on the sideline with crutches and a boot. Hope it?s just a sprain ankle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Falco Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Omg.. I can't handle this shit. Don't get this close and fuck it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Falco Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 I'LL FUCKING TAKE IT! :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodrigueGabriel Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Helluva way to start your career. Sent from my SM-G970U using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Unbelievable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 Wow. Good shit and good Karma for a change. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYR2711 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Hopefully Barkley isn’t out for long. A win is a win, but this was nothing but to brag about. It’s nice to have a QB that moves, it it also pisses me off Moreno’s that OBJ isn’t on the team. These two would be really good for each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Hopefully Barkley isn’t out for long. A win is a win, but this was nothing but to brag about. It’s nice to have a QB that moves, it it also pisses me off Moreno’s that OBJ isn’t on the team. These two would be really good for each other. DJ wouldn't have been able to step in and lead the team in his first game if diva OBJ was here commanding attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worle Ranger Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 DJ wouldn't have been able to step in and lead the team in his first game if diva OBJ was here commanding attention. Yes, Jones is much better off throwing to blokes who can?t catch, like Russell Shepard. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty9 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Wow ,what away to start your career. Jones was awesome ,happy for the young man and I am not even a giants fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Yes, Jones is much better off throwing to blokes who can?t catch, like Russell Shepard. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Good thing he had another Shepard and Engram. Getting rid of OBJ is addition by subtraction. Speaking of OBJ, anyone else see him introduce himself on the Sunday Night game? What a tool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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