NYR2711 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 The OL was much improved the 2nd half and they've added a probowl quality RG. Scoring the most points in the division generally helps win the division, so it does matter. I didn't see people bitching about the Eagles or Cowboys offense even though they scored less. The defense was horrid and thats why the Giants were horrid. Highly disagree, the had the most points in the division, yet they were dead last in the division. It doesn't matter how many points you score if your constantly losing games. Again, look at the overall against the league in points for, teams don't just play division teams. They are at the bottom of the pack in regards to league wide scoring, thats more important than the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Highly disagree, the had the most points in the division, yet they were dead last in the division. It doesn't matter how many points you score if your constantly losing games. Again, look at the overall against the league in points for, teams don't just play division teams. They are at the bottom of the pack in regards to league wide scoring, thats more important than the division. So you highly disagree that scoring more points than other teams helps win more games, and thus helps win the division? OK lol. I think most didn't watch the 2nd half since the Giants were basically out of it, so I get it. Maybe some of the guys they brought in will help defensively, but it will probably be more of the same on that end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYR2711 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 So you highly disagree that scoring more points than other teams helps win more games, and thus helps win the division? OK lol. I think most didn't watch the 2nd half since the Giants were basically out of it, so I get it. Maybe some of the guys they brought in will help, but it will probably be more of the same on that end. The Giants disproved this last year. According to you, if you score the most points your going to win the division, yet, the Giants scored the most in their division, and were in last place in the division. Yes, you need to score to win, but simply putting up a lot of points doesn't mean your a good team. And again, out of the entire NFL, the were no where near the top in scoring. They were better the second half, but they were still bad, and they haven't really done anything to improve that much in the offseason. That OL is terrible. The opposition got to Eli more times than not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 The Giants disproved this last year. According to you, if you score the most points your going to win the division, yet, the Giants scored the most in their division, and were in last place in the division. Yes, you need to score to win, but simply putting up a lot of points doesn't mean your a good team. And again, out of the entire NFL, the were no where near the top in scoring. They were better the second half, but they were still bad, and they haven't really done anything to improve that much in the offseason. That OL is terrible. The opposition got to Eli more times than not. One year doesn't disprove anything. Look at the last 10 years. Generally the top point scorer in the division has been winning the division or at least close. It's not everything because offense is half the battle. Defense matters just as much. The Giants scored enough points to compete for the division. The defense was just that bad. The OL improved as the season went. Flowers was flushed out. Hernandez as a rookie got better as the season went. Him progressing even more this year should help relieve Solder's amount of responsibility on the left side. They traded for an all pro RG. Center wasn't particularly bad last year. RT is still a hole. We'll see what they do there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYR2711 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 The Giants really haven't been good since they last won the Super Bowl. In the past 10 years, they went to the playoffs three times. Once they won he Super Bowl and the other they lost the wild card game. And your brining up their scoring last year, but this year they don't have their leading touch down guy in OBJ. All they have is Barkley. So offense is going to be a bigger issue this year. Here are the last 10 years and how many points they scored and where they finished: 2018: 369 PF, 1st in division PF, 4th in division overall 2017: 246 PF, 4th in division PF, 4th in division overall 2016: 310 PF, 4th in division PF, 2nd in division overall-Lost Wild Card 2015: 420 PF, 1st in division PF, 3rd in division overall 2014: 380 PF, 3rd in division PF, 3rd in division overall 2013: 439 PF, 2nd in division PF, 2nd in division overall 2012: 429 PF, 2nd in division PF, 2nd in division overall 2011: 394 PF, 2nd in division PF, 1st in division overall-Won Super Bowl 2010: 394 PF, tied with Dallas for 2nd in division PF, 2nd overall in division 2009: 402 PF, 2nd in division PF, 3rd overall in division 2008: 427 PF, 1st in division PF, 1st overall in division-Lost divisional Just going by these stats, points for doesn't guarantee you anything. I hope they do better this year, but Im also not getting my hopes up. This team won't do anything with Gettleman in charge. Gutting talent from a team because you didn't pick them is not how you build a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 OBJ took yet another shot at the Giants. How many games until he gets hurt next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonGecko Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 seems to be a missing post in here by rangers02 Yesterday, 07:11 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slobberknocker Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 im more worried about where the pass rush is coming from this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonGecko Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 This thread is like the Bermuda Triangle of posts Ghostly posts are here but then they're not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Seems pretty likely the Browns will implode at some point from all of the egos they have over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Falco Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Golden Tate facing suspension for PED's, will appeal http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001037464/article/golden-tate-facing-fourgame-suspension-for-peds Also, there's this: @NYPost_Schwartz The Giants did not know about the pending Golden Tate suspension when they signed him. This is a fairly new development. And this: @JordanRaanan Giants WR corps now has its Top 3 options either out or in some doubt for the opener after news of a potential suspension for Golden Tate. Sterling Shepard has an injured thumb, Corey Coleman tore knee. Next up: Cody Latimer, Bennie Fowler, Russell Shepard and Darius Slayton :rofl: Let the tanking begin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4EverRangerFrank Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Giants already losing before the first snap on a new season. Geez. :banghead: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Falco Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Giants already losing before the first snap on a new season. Geez. :banghead: You have to just laugh about it at this point. It's either that or be angry all season.. again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Giants already losing before the first snap on a new season. Geez. :banghead:We're going to have to get WRs that can be quality replacements for Sterling, Tate, and Corey. https://nypost.com/2019/07/27/victor-cruz-again-angling-for-return-amid-giants-catastrophe Sent from my LGL43AL using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 How the hell do you sign someone without knowing something like that? Shouldn't a pending suspension be pretty public knowledge? And especially disclosed to the GM signing you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYR2711 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 How the hell do you sign someone without knowing something like that? Shouldn't a pending suspension be pretty public knowledge? And especially disclosed to the GM signing you? That’s because Gettleman is a dope. He ruined this team, they have zero offense right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Falco Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 That?s because Gettleman is a dope. He ruined this team, they have zero offense right now. Daniel Jones will save us! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abe Froman Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 You have to just laugh about it at this point. It's either that or be angry all season.. again. So true. It's the new dark age for the Giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Watch them win the Super Bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYR2711 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 So who do they have at WR at this point? When will the Eli bashing start that he is terrible and shouldn't be playing, meanwhile he has zero offense outside of Barkley. This season is going to be a shit show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 And we have to play the Jets of all years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 First defensive drive: TD First offensive drive: 3 and out Mid season form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 First defensive drive: TD First offensive drive: 3 and out Mid season form At least Daniel Jones was throwing dimes. 5/5 67 yards and a td on his 1st drive. Pretty good, even for pre-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Falco Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Daniel Jones will save us! mhmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 At least Daniel Jones was throwing dimes. 5/5 67 yards and a td on his 1st drive. Pretty good, even for pre-season.It's early yet, but I think DJ can be a really good QB in the NFL with that performance. But let's see because I want to have cautious optimism because we don't want to have another Dave Brown Sent from my LGL43AL using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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