Ranger Lothbrok Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I know there are a couple of people on here who live in consistently cold climates that are surrounded by wilderness and wildlife. I'm wondering if any of you would be able to identify a bear track if you saw it, because I saw strange paw prints in the snow in our front yard this morning and I have NEVER seen a bear in our neighborhood before. I'm in Central Jersey, and I know they're around here or there, but I've never seen them in our town. There's not a lot of forest-type areas; it's a lot of roads and development. I only ask because it's somewhat disconcerting, what with having 5 small dogs in the house that we like to let run free in the backyard. The area is fenced in, but it's still a little unnerving. Anyway, if you're able to tell what it is by these poorly shot photos, it'd be much appreciated. For perspective's sake, the paw prints are almost exactly the size of my hand. Thanks! http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i384/nyr199435/photo_zpsa04982a0.jpg http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i384/nyr199435/photo1_zps63bb09ee.jpg http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i384/nyr199435/photo2_zpsa3c17ce2.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 wrestle that mother fucker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Not sure if that's a bear, but I wouldn't fuck around with what whatever it is. Where did the tracks lead to? Was it garbage night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 How wide are the prints? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Jersey Devil! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Jersey Devil! I want to believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I knew a guy that grinned down a bear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 How large are the actual prints? I thought bear prints had 5 'toes'. Wolves/dogs would have 4, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 If they are over 4", they could definitely be bear tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I cant see shit on this monitor. Its almost as bad as trying to figure out what's in Pete's neighbor's backyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Lothbrok Posted January 28, 2014 Author Share Posted January 28, 2014 The prints are almost exactly the size of my hand. So maybe 3-4 inches wide, 6-7 inches long? I can say this: it's WAY too big to be a dog print, unless for some reason there's a Saint Bernard or Great Dane on the loose. As for the location of the tracks, yes: it was garbage night. However, the garbage did not appear to be touched in any way, and the tracks don't lead out to the can which was in the street. The cross almost immediately in front of our front door, continue over the driveway, on through the front yard, then around the side of the house to the backyard. After that though, I couldn't really distinguish between those prints and all the fricken deer prints back there, because there are a ton of deer around our house consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 How large are the actual prints? I thought bear prints had 5 'toes'. Wolves/dogs would have 4, though. Bears have five toes, but they are a little more spread out than on a human foot. This is likely not a wolf, which has two forward toes and the other two toes more off to the side of the paw. The first and third picture seem to show a fifth toe print (but less deep) on the right side of the track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Bears have five toes, but they are a little more spread out than on a human foot. This is likely not a wolf, which has two forward toes and the other two toes more off to the side of the paw. The first and third picture seem to show a fifth toe print (but less deep) on the right side of the track. I can only make out 4, which seem to be symmetrical... which wouldn't be a bear. But, their front and back paws would make different prints. I would recommend contacting the local... whatever, to let them know of possible prints, just to alert other people in case there is a bear roaming around the neighborhood. Regardless, I need to make boots that leave bear prints. So cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Bb--8oG_NSo/SXzxQCR5POI/AAAAAAAACZ4/zIKZ_Zu1dL8/s1600/animaltracks.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I never new turkeys had a bigger foot print than a moose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I never new turkeys had a bigger foot print than a moose "Tracks are not to scale" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Pretty cool pics. Just a few things. 1- Black bear tracks, (what I assume are in your area)...tend to have more rounded toe imprints. Rather then what appear to be longer skinnier toes, (in the pictures) 2- They will have 5 distinct toes in fromt of paw imprint. The Hind being a much larger paw imprint then the front. I'm not familiar with size, weight and length of stride of your of your bears back east. I think to take note is obviously the impression it would have made into the ground. And of course that depends on structure of snow, and softness of ground. Couple of questions- 1- Dogs hate bears, (natural fear), and if in the area dogs will act in a bizarre manner. (whimpering, anxious, etc). Even if they have never been around a bear, the smell is instinctive. 2- Any trash being messed with, (Black bears are the most troublesome) 3- Typically you will see droppings if there has been a bear around. Follow the tracks and that will give you a indication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Pretty cool pics. Just a few things. 1- Black bear tracks, (what I assume are in your area)...tend to have more rounded toe imprints. Rather then what appear to be longer skinnier toes, (in the pictures) 2- They will have 5 distinct toes in fromt of paw imprint. The Hind being a much larger paw imprint then the front. I'm not familiar with size, weight and length of stride of your of your bears back east. I think to take note is obviously the impression it would have made into the ground. And of course that depends on structure of snow, and softness of ground. Couple of questions- 1- Dogs hate bears, (natural fear), and if in the area dogs will act in a bizarre manner. (whimpering, anxious, etc). Even if they have never been around a bear, the smell is instinctive. 2- Any trash being messed with, (Black bears are the most troublesome) 3- Typically you will see droppings if there has been a bear around. Follow the tracks and that will give you a indication. I guess that answers the long looming question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 maybe its a sasquatch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Pretty cool pics. Just a few things. 1- Black bear tracks, (what I assume are in your area)...tend to have more rounded toe imprints. Rather then what appear to be longer skinnier toes, (in the pictures) 2- They will have 5 distinct toes in fromt of paw imprint. The Hind being a much larger paw imprint then the front. I'm not familiar with size, weight and length of stride of your of your bears back east. I think to take note is obviously the impression it would have made into the ground. And of course that depends on structure of snow, and softness of ground. Couple of questions- 1- Dogs hate bears, (natural fear), and if in the area dogs will act in a bizarre manner. (whimpering, anxious, etc). Even if they have never been around a bear, the smell is instinctive. 2- Any trash being messed with, (Black bears are the most troublesome) 3- Typically you will see droppings if there has been a bear around. Follow the tracks and that will give you a indication. With 5 dogs - those things would have gone nuts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 With 5 dogs - those things would have gone nuts! We lived off a creek growing up. Pretty far off the beaten path, probably only a few neighbors within 10 square miles. There was a natural trail that led to the creek across our property. Our two sled dogs would literally try to dig under the house if bears were in the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Big foot exists! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZebraDude Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Those are footprints from Bill from WBB. Hide! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Lothbrok Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 Did some investigation. It's tough to follow the tracks because a lot of the snow melted yesterday morning while it was warm for a while. I can report that I found no droppings out of the ordinary (in other words, nothing other than deer pellets), and the garbage was totally undisturbed. As for the nature of the tracks, the pictures I posted were the most definitive I had. It looked to me like 4 large claw marks at the top of the print, and a possible side appendage but it's too vague to tell. Again, they were almost exactly the size of my hand, so way too big for any kind of rodent, nowhere near the shape of deer hooves, and big enough that it would eliminate all but the largest breeds of dogs, and even then it's questionable. As for the gait/pattern, the tracks seem to be very close together. Like almost right on top of one another. Nothing close to big loping strides or anything like that. The prints are clustered together more than the deer prints and more than human tracks. Honestly I'm not sure if any of our dogs would know a bear if they smelled it. They're so far removed from anything remotely resembling wildlife that I doubt they have the instinct in them anymore. We have two Boston terriers, a pug, a French bulldog, and a beagle/basset mix. The pug was flipping out last night, but he has a tendency to flip out at the slightest provocation. The beagle/basset mix would probably be the most capable of sniffing it, but he has NEVER made a sound since we adopted him. He was a test subject for students at a veterinary school; he has some weird kind of throat condition that required operation. He has never once barked, he just follows you around all day wagging his tail. He's a weird dog, so even if he DID smell something out of the ordinary, he really wouldn't have any way of letting us know other than pacing around excitedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Clutch Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 maybe its a sasquatch? http://www.quickmeme.com/img/cd/cde9f7d280985d0ae5554cba2b02ed1b59d9c9cf68f73a3940612cdf7580124e.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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