Phil Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 What a shitshow... Ban them for life. ...There's no chance there's a Rangers player, right?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc said: What a shitshow... Ban them for life. ...There's no chance there's a Rangers player, right?? Of the names I've seen that were on that team, no Rangers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 2, 2023 Author Share Posted August 2, 2023 No Rangers. The working theory is Alex Forementon, who remains unsigned, is the prime suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 I can't wait to see who they are. I'm sure they will be banned for life, or a very long time minimum. This is a huge stain for the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Is this the Quenneville thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 3, 2023 Author Share Posted August 3, 2023 No, separate. https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nhl/news/hockey-canada-scandal-sexual-assault-2018-world-juniors-team/hhc54xdapaqx5l29kuimp09g 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, Phil said: No, separate. https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nhl/news/hockey-canada-scandal-sexual-assault-2018-world-juniors-team/hhc54xdapaqx5l29kuimp09g Good synopsis. And at the end of the article, we get to see how the laws of deduction might start pointing fingers. Quote The following players have come out either via personal statement or with their agency to say that they were not involved with the allegations: Jake Bean, Kale Clague, Max Comtois, Dillon Dube, Dante Fabbro, Cal Foote, Jonah Gadjovich, Carter Hart, Brett Howden, Cale Makar, Colton Point, Taylor Raddysh, Sam Steel, Tyler Steenbergen Robert Thomas and Conor Timmins. The following players have stated that they have fully cooperated with the investigation but declined to comment further: Boris Katchouk, Drake Batherson and Michael McLeod. Alex Formenton is the lone player that has not made any comments to date. Ban from hockey is great and all, but let's see some fucking criminal charges too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) So that's three cooperating and one with no comment. Wonder who the fifth is if those four are involved. Edited August 3, 2023 by Cash or Czech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 1 hour ago, phillyb said: Boris Katchouk, Drake Batherson and Michael McLeod. Some decent players here. What a way to ruin what you've worked your entire life for. Quote At the hotel, the two " engaged in sexual acts" in John Doe 1’s hotel room. The woman said that after this, "John Doe 1 invited the remainder of the John Doe defendants into the room without the knowledge or consent of the Plaintiff." The woman said in the claim that over the next several hours, John Does 1-8 engaged in several sexual acts "which collectively constituted sexual abuse and assault of the Plaintiff." During these assaults, "the Plaintiff experienced an ongoing apprehension of imminent physical harm of a sexual nature. The actions of the John Doe Defendants caused terror and fear in the Plaintiff’s mind." This is sickening to read. They deserve a lot worse than just a ban from hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Don't forget this part... Quote In the claim, the woman states that she could not give consent to any of the actions because of how intoxicated she was. In addition, the group of eight would not let her leave the room, despite multiple attempts by the victim. Knew she wanted to get the fuck out of there though and they wouldn't let her. Let's. See. Some. Criminal. Fucking. Charges. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, phillyb said: Don't forget this part... Knew she wanted to get the fuck out of there though and they wouldn't let her. Let's. See. Some. Criminal. Fucking. Charges. It just isn't that easy. "He said, she said" cases are tough to prosecute. Burdens of proof vary (in the US anyways) between Civil and Criminal courts. Im confident law enforcement will do all that's necessary to vet out the victims story but at the end of the day sometimes that isn't enough. Two sides to every story and drunk consent/ non consent is a coin toss with a jury (although I'm not sure of Canadas judicial process). Will be interesting to see how it all plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 34 minutes ago, jsm7302 said: It just isn't that easy. "He said, she said" cases are tough to prosecute. Burdens of proof vary (in the US anyways) between Civil and Criminal courts. Im confident law enforcement will do all that's necessary to vet out the victims story but at the end of the day sometimes that isn't enough. Two sides to every story and drunk consent/ non consent is a coin toss with a jury (although I'm not sure of Canadas judicial process). Will be interesting to see how it all plays out. Somewhere between 5 and 8 boys. Shouldn't be too hard to have them tell on each other. A lot these cases gets dismissed because of "He said, she said", but here there's 5-10 people. I'm sure they don't want to incriminate themselves even further by lying in court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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