Sod16 Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 If the rest of the league valued Lundvist the way this thread seems to suppose it does, he would have been gone at the deadline. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 Why do we think we have gold chip prospects when our drafting has been suspect for YEARS? No way this is a hockey 1 for 1 trade. Lundkvist hasn't even sniffed the NHL yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 15 hours ago, Costa said: Lundkvist & KK24's rights to Chicago for Dach+ Not a chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 9 hours ago, Sod16 said: If the rest of the league valued Lundvist the way this thread seems to suppose it does, he would have been gone at the deadline. What kind of logic is this? They made 4 trades and only included 1 prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 29, 2022 Author Share Posted June 29, 2022 Quote The 21-year-old posted only 26 points (nine goals and 17 assists) in 70 games last season, raising doubts about his development. He brings size (6-foot-4, 197 pounds) and has made progress defensively, including as a penalty killer, but the skill has yet to translate and his faceoff win rate is an abysmal 32.84%, which is already an area of weakness for the Rangers. The chances of the 'Hawks parting with him are slim, but perhaps a two-for-one swap including Kravtsov and a young defenseman would tempt them as they look to restart their franchise. As an RFA, Dach's next deal is expected to land in the $2 million-to-$2.5 million range, which would be an ideal price point and worthwhile gamble for the Rangers. https://www.lohud.com/story/sports/nhl/rangers/2022/06/29/exploring-alternatives-ny-rangers-fill-their-need-center/7755618001/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Phil said: two-for-one swap including Kravtsov and a young defenseman Hard pass unless their is something else coming back in return that is worthwhile Edited June 29, 2022 by Blue Heaven 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 45 minutes ago, Phil said: https://www.lohud.com/story/sports/nhl/rangers/2022/06/29/exploring-alternatives-ny-rangers-fill-their-need-center/7755618001/ This is much more realistic than PLD. 9 minutes ago, Blue Heaven said: Hard pass unless their is something else coming back in return that is worthwhile You're over-valuing Kravtsov. He's on a 1 year deal and a known malcontent. We'd be lucky to get Dach for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 I rather have Kravtsov come to camp and show what he's got than package him with one of our best trade chips for a center who doesn't solve any of our needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 17 minutes ago, Cash or Czech said: I rather have Kravtsov come to camp and show what he's got than package him with one of our best trade chips for a center who doesn't solve any of our needs. *Now. He's young and his faceoff issues have been linked to that horrific injury. He's low risk/high reward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 29, 2022 Author Share Posted June 29, 2022 9 minutes ago, Pete said: *Now. He's young and his faceoff issues have been linked to that horrific injury. He's low risk/high reward. I agree, but head-to-head, and given the composition of the team, I don't think they're nearly as interested in this as they would be with Dubois, who is a much more proven win-now player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 Just now, Phil said: I agree, but head-to-head, and given the composition of the team, I don't think they're nearly as interested in this as they would be with Dubois, who is a much more proven win-now player. Obviously but there's a cost basis to consider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 29, 2022 Author Share Posted June 29, 2022 100%. Dach is more like what they have in Chytil right now. Time and promise. Dubois is a signal that they're all in to win as soon as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Phil said: 100%. Dach is more like what they have in Chytil right now. Time and promise. Dubois is a signal that they're all in to win as soon as possible. In terms of where they are, yes. In terms of style, Dach is more PLD. Use your size, play in traffic. That isn't really Chytil, at least on a consistent basis. And that makes all the difference. Edited June 29, 2022 by Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 29, 2022 Author Share Posted June 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Pete said: In terms of where they are, yes. In terms of style, Dach is more PLD. Use your size, play in traffic. That isn't really Chytil, at least on a consistent basis. And that makes all the difference. Sorry, yeah, not comparing style. Just age/salary position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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