Phil Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Quote Elliotte Friedman reported a week ago that the Chicago Blackhawks may be shopping Kirby Dach. Dach, the 3rd overall pick in the 2019 draft (Kaapo Kakko went 2nd) is a 21 year old center who is still looking to take the next step in his development and career. The Rangers need a young, cost controlled center to fill out their middle six, and have defensemen to spare. Chicago has a defenseman need. Is there a Nils Lundkvist/Kirby Dach trade in the cards? Quote The Rangers need centers, and the Hawks need defensemen. Both teams have a surplus at these positions to trade, making it a natural match. That’s on paper, of course. A Nils Lundkvist/Kirby Dach trade goes deeper than just prospect swaps that addresses positions of need for both teams. Both are pretty cheap too, with Lundkvist on his ELC and Dach about to his his second contract. His expected contract is around 2-3 years at $2.5 million, which is well within what the Rangers can afford to address their center need. Quote Where this may begin to fall apart is what each player is right now, and that is an unknown entity. Dach is coming off his best year, putting up 9-17-26 in 70 games while playing all around the lineup. He’s tremendously skilled, and a “big North American kid,” which we know both Chris Drury and Gerard Gallant love. He’s got a ton of raw potential but hasn’t put it together yet. Quote The Rangers are set at RD, but do have an opening on LD. Chicago is in need of RD, with just one (or two if you count Jake McCabe) signed to next season. But this is still an unknown quantity for an unknown quantity. In theory, both players could use a change of scenery. Dach, for whatever reason, is being dangled. Lundkvist appears to be blocked. Seems like a no brainer, again on paper though. https://blueseatblogs.com/2022/06/17/nils-lundkvist-kirby-dach-trade/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 I like Dach. I think he's gonna be a good NHL'er. I'd be in favor of this deal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 A defenseman who might never play for us for a center with lots of potential? Makes no sense to me. Not sure why Chicago would do a straight up deal though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 "We need a center who can win faceoffs" by Game 4 of next season. If you thought Chytil and Strome were bad at them, I implore you to look at Dach's numbers. With that said, I still do Lundkvist for Dach and it's not a tough decision at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 I had to go back and look. I had cozens higher on my draft board, but mentioned several times that Dach owned him that season, 3-0 or 3-1 head to head and put up more points. id still like cozens over Dach, but I’m listening… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 But I’d prefer a different ChiCago Center. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, RJWantsTheCup said: A defenseman who might never play for us for a center with lots of potential? Makes no sense to me. Not sure why Chicago would do a straight up deal though. Dach has 1 more point than Kakko in 6 less games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Just now, josh said: But I’d prefer a different ChiCago Center. We can get him at the Trade deadline, Josh...but I know where you're going with that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 I'm interested from a potential perspective, but only if you're moving on from Chytil. I'd rather have a more proven option at 2C or 3C with some consistent scoring output, and as rmc mentioned, someone who can win faceoffs. I'm not sure the team needs more young blood that might not live up to expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, josh said: But I’d prefer a different ChiCago Center. Half retention plus they take Nemeth. Then we can talk about the rest of the pieces involved. Toews is a good stop-gap option at the right price for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) I'd do the deal in a heartbeat since it would give the Rangers some extra depth down the middle, and if it works out....great, if not it was a depth player for a depth player since Lundkqvist doesnt really have a spot here anyway. Can possibly the type of Strome for Spooner type of deal. However, I can't see this being a 1:1 deal, Rangers would have to add something IMO.....Nemeth Edited June 17, 2022 by Blue Heaven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, rmc51 said: Half retention plus they take Nemeth. Then we can talk about the rest of the pieces involved. Toews is a good stop-gap option at the right price for sure. I still filter him through Arizona. They can take a ~3m cap hit and pay less than 1m in salary. @Phil brought up this option a while back. Makes sense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Holy fuck is be bad from the dot. 34.6% im not totally against it, but it doesn’t really do too much for us if we are talking Strome replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Dach wouldn't be a Strome replacement, he would be for center depth. Wonder if Chicago tried him on the wing at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 A Rangers-Blackhawks trade rumor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonybologna Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Never seen him play but I like the blurb on Kirb. Do it, nil room for Nils anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 I’d do that in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-ERIK- Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Hawks giving up on Dach so soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, RangersIn7 said: I’d do that in a heartbeat. Hawks shouldn't though. Deal would have to be much bigger than that. Dachs injury really set him back. As a part-time Hawks fan, they've been mismanaged for a while now. It's definitely time for a front office shake up. Edited June 18, 2022 by Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 8 hours ago, Pete said: Hawks shouldn't though. Deal would have to be much bigger than that. Dachs injury really set him back. As a part-time Hawks fan, they've been mismanaged for a while now. It's definitely time for a front office shake up. I agree But if we can fleece an inept front office, so be it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 18, 2022 Author Share Posted June 18, 2022 8 hours ago, Pete said: Hawks shouldn't though. Deal would have to be much bigger than that. Dachs injury really set him back. As a part-time Hawks fan, they've been mismanaged for a while now. It's definitely time for a front office shake up. Agreed. If this is happening if feels like it needs to be part of a reset for the Hawks because they have other older players to move for young guys to rebuild on. In other words, if they're doing this, it needs to be much bigger if only to mask the fact they'll be giving up on a 20-something-year-old center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Phil said: Agreed. If this is happening if feels like it needs to be part of a reset for the Hawks because they have other older players to move for young guys to rebuild on. In other words, if they're doing this, it needs to be much bigger if only to mask the fact they'll be giving up on a 20-something-year-old center. If this is actually a possibility, I’d certainly go higher than just Nils. Not astronomically higher, but significantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Lundkvist & KK24's rights to Chicago for Dach+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 6 hours ago, Costa said: Lundkvist & KK24's rights to Chicago for Dach+ No. Cause you want to make that acquisition without a known roster piece if you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 2 hours ago, RangersIn7 said: No. Cause you want to make that acquisition without a known roster piece if you can. That's why I said Dach + or plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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