Rangers Acquire Andrew Copp From WPG for Morgan Barron and Two 2nd-Round Picks

[Pete]

1 minute ago, rmc51 said:

He probably doesn’t view himself as such either with that kind of production.

And that's my point. Why would he sign for 3C money if he doesn't think he's a 3C and the Rangers are asking him to play 2C?

[Valriera]

Lol if we got him for just two seconds that is really something 

[BlairBettsBlocksEverything]

1 minute ago, Drew a Penalty said:

 

Is there no player going in  return?

 

 

[Winter]

Barron is the prospect going to WPG per Dreger

Edited March 21, 2022 by Winter

[Pete]

2 minutes ago, RichieNextel305 said:

To all saying Copp can be a future Strome replacement:

 

I don’t think looking at the production is enough here to be honest. Strome is having an off year to this point, no one can deny that. I think what the detractors, like myself, here are saying is that Andrew Copp is a fucking fantastic 3rd line player. He is literally a Swiss Army knife who can grind, skate, score, defend, play everywhere at anytime. He’s going to likely have a lot thrown on his shoulders here just as he did in Winnipeg. Moving him up from 3rd line duties to 2nd means taking him a making him an amazing 3rd line player into an okay 2nd line player. We’re gonna need playmakers and scorers to play there with Bread.

 

Copp lengthens this lineup tremendously. At a young age, he’s probably one of the best 3Cs you can ask for. He fits that role perfectly here and would anywhere. Let him play his role, because that’s where we’ll get the most value out of him.

[BlairBettsBlocksEverything]

Sucks to lose him but good for him to go somewhere he will get a better chance to play.

 

Was hoping it was Hajek lol

 

 

great deadline day for Drury. Addressed everything this team needs. We are a much deeper side then we were yesterday

 

[RJWantsTheCup]

Barron and 2 conditional #2's for Copp?

[Pete]

1 minute ago, BlairBettsBlocksEverything said:

Is there no player going in  return?

 

 

Morgan Barron. And we also gave them a 5th and got a 6th back.

 

2 Conditional 2nds

Barron

5th

 

FOR

 

Copp

6th

[Winter]

Just now, BlairBettsBlocksEverything said:

Sucks to lose him but good for him to go somewhere he will get a better chance to play.

 

Was hoping it was Hajek lol

 

 

great deadline day for Drury. Addressed everything this team needs. We are a much deeper side then we were yesterday

 

Yeah he will probably slot in Copps spot right away and being our luck outdo Copp like Pionk did Trouba lol

[BlairBettsBlocksEverything]

Just now, RJWantsTheCup said:

Barron and 2 conditional #2's for Copp?

seems like it. great trade

[Valriera]

good and much needed deal for a similar player who can help us now. Barron had every opportunity this year to prove that he was that guy, which he failed to do. The same can be said of almost all of our prospects too. 

[Cash or Czech]

Copp is an older, better developed, more mature Barron. Basically we got today what Barron might be in the future. I’m all about it

[Keirik]

17 minutes ago, Pete said:

How am I taking both sides? I don't think he's a second line player, but if you're him and the Rangers ask you to be a 2nd liner is he going to do it for a 1M raise? I don't think so. Why would he? So is he cheaper than Strome? Doubtful.

 

Fact is, Ranger fans have always had this "grass is greener" fantasy where we take 3rd liners for other teams and they suddenly become stars for us. It's happened exactly one time in the last 15 or so years and it was with Strome, who everyone is trying to replace LOL.

 

Like, I was fully on board to replace Strome with Schiefele... But I'm not going to replace Strome with the guy who plays 2 rungs below Schiefele.

You can't bring up both sides. Strome is a second line player in your mind right? Is he currently paid like a second line center ? So how would it be one iota different to bring in another C that previously isn't performing at the exact second line production rate, pay him a bit less, and try to get good value out of a 2-3 year deal like they have with Strome if Ryan proces himself out of NY? 

   Just because draft wise he was projected to be one ? Draft wise, a top 5 pick is projected to be more 1st line production in most cases so his pedigree really doesn't hold too much weight to me. Who hebwas before getting here and who he became once here is all that matters. If he's going to cost us too much, I have no problem trying to replicate that especially considering Copp does bring some other aspects to his game Strome doesn't.

 

 

  It's not a case of grass bring greener. It's a case of a today's NHL being a league where you really need to not pay for yesterday and instead look for good value of today and tomorrow. 

[Dunny]

Robbery

[Dunny]

Andrew Copp for found money lol

[Ozzy]

I gotta say it:

 

In Drury we Trust!!!

 

Pretty good deals for this team, and didn't give up anything noteworthy.

[Blue Heaven]

1 minute ago, Ozzy said:

I gotta say it:

 

In Drury we Trust!!!

 

Pretty good deals for this team, and didn't give up anything noteworthy.

Didnt really address top 6 goal scoring.....I guess we're hoping Kakka comes back and fills that void?  These trades helped by slotting players in their perfect spots in the lineup.  

[jsm7302]

19 minutes ago, RichieNextel305 said:

To all saying Copp can be a future Strome replacement:

 

I don’t think looking at the production is enough here to be honest. Strome is having an off year to this point, no one can deny that. I think what the detractors, like myself, here are saying is that Andrew Copp is a fucking fantastic 3rd line player. He is literally a Swiss Army knife who can grind, skate, score, defend, play everywhere at anytime. He’s going to likely have a lot thrown on his shoulders here just as he did in Winnipeg. Moving him up from 3rd line duties to 2nd means taking him a making him an amazing 3rd line player into an okay 2nd line player. We’re gonna need playmakers and scorers to play there with Bread.

 

Copp lengthens this lineup tremendously. At a young age, he’s probably one of the best 3Cs you can ask for. He fits that role perfectly here and would anywhere. Let him play his role, because that’s where we’ll get the most value out of him. That’s not to say he can’t handle the job; just that I personally view him more as a perfect 3C.

 

All of that being said, I wouldn’t be 150% floored to see him, at times, get a shift on that Panarin-Strome line for a look or for whatever the situation may dictate.

Vatrano and Copp are both going to get looks in the top 6 for this run; id almost guarantee it.

[RJWantsTheCup]

I'm sure Drury has some plan to re-sign Copp & Strome over the summer.

 

[BlairBettsBlocksEverything]

I'd love to see this trade tree 

[Ozzy]

2 minutes ago, Blue Heaven said:

Didnt really address top 6 goal scoring.....I guess we're hoping Kakka comes back and fills that void?  These trades helped by slotting players in their perfect spots in the lineup.  

 

Gotta give the kids their chance.  I think if they don't fit the bill, we address that over the summer, Blue.  I wanna see what we have as well. 

[Pete]

4 minutes ago, Keirik said:

You can't bring up both sides. Strome is a second line player in your mind right? Is he currently paid like a second line center ? So how would it be one iota different to bring in another C that previously isn't performing at the exact second line production rate, pay him a bit less, and try to get good value out of a 2-3 year deal like they have with Strome if Ryan proces himself out of NY? 

   Just because draft wise he was projected to be one ? Draft wise, a top 5 pick is projected to be more 1st line production in most cases so his pedigree really doesn't hold too much weight to me. Who hebwas before getting here and who he became once here is all that matters. If he's going to cost us too much, I have no problem trying to replicate that especially considering Copp does bring some other aspects to his game Strome doesn't.

 

 

  It's not a case of grass bring greener. It's a case of a today's NHL being a league where you really need to not pay for yesterday and instead look for good value of today and tomorrow. 

To be clear, I don't see Copp being much (if any) of a cost savings over Strome if you're asking both players to be a 2C on this team. I don't think replacing Strome with Copp over $500K or something as being an upgrade. And remind me why Copp signs a 2-3 year deal as a UFA?

 

 

[Cash or Czech]

If he plays well, I’d love to re-sign him. But he’s going to garner $4.5mil+ easy as a UFA. Would need to dump Chytil, Nemeth, and then some

[NYR2711]

It stings losing Barron with the potential he has, but if they can sign Copp to an extension this won’t sting as much. The second rounders are conditional picks. One becomes a first if the Rangers win the first two rounds of the playoffs and Copp plays 50% of the games and the other is a 2nd in either this year or next years draft, Winnipegs pick.

[Capt]

Best deadline trade this team has made in a very long time.