Cash or Czech Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Just now, Pete said: That Twitter thread did not read as satire Fair. The first post, yes. The later ones, no. I'd put Mead on Adam Herman levels of 'blowing smoke out his ass most if not all of the time'. Not sure if that counts as flaming if he's still here but fuck Adam Herman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Everything that guy writes reads as satire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 34 minutes ago, BlairBettsBlocksEverything said: I feel like, even with 50% retained, not that Vancouver should have any real interest in that given they need to re-sign Boesser and still fill out their lineup, we still can't fit Miller and Strome. But even if he's the replacement, he's only signed for one more year. Will we have caproom in 23-24 to resign him? If Strome can be re-signed for not much more than Miller is currently getting, you don't make this trade JT miller at 50% would be 2,6m a year. That's Nemeth or Chytil money. No problem dumping either/both of them. That said, I don't see a world where we get Miller with 50% retention. Would need Schneider, Kravtsov, 1st +, and I'm not interested in that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 4 hours ago, Pete said: Kravtsov, Lundkvist, pick. Where do I sign? Also, does this make the initial JT Miller trade a total clusterfuck or what? lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlairBettsBlocksEverything Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc said: JT miller at 50% would be 2,6m a year. That's Nemeth or Chytil money. No problem dumping either/both of them. That said, I don't see a world where we get Miller with 50% retention. Would need Schneider, Kravtsov, 1st +, and I'm not interested in that. I mean, yeah I guess it depends what we give up, but, at the end of the day, we already have under 10 mil to resign Strome, Kakko, a backup goalie and to just overall fill out the roster. 2.6 will be an important chunk of change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 The number of insiders we can actually believe can be counted on one hand with a few fingers left over. There are quite a few bloggers I really like, but they throw as much shit against the wall to see what sticks as I do. I like the reads and te debate, but take 99% of it with a grain of salt. At the end of the day friends, the only unimpeachable source we have is Larry Brooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Flynn said: The number of insiders we can actually believe can be counted on one hand with a few fingers left over. There are quite a few bloggers I really like, but they throw as much shit against the wall to see what sticks as I do. I like the reads and te debate, but take 99% of it with a grain of salt. At the end of the day friends, the only unimpeachable source we have is Larry Brooks. I think we found Larry' account! 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ThirtyONE said: I think we found Larry' account! I can't be the only person who thinks the world of his sources and impeccable reporting. I'm a.... I mean Larry, is a critical cog in the fan experience in following this club. Dan Boyle is also a dickface. Edited January 18, 2022 by Flynn 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 If the Canucks trade JT Miller and retain 50%, they have $12.6mil in cap space to re-sign Brock Boeser, replace JT Miller's production, find a new starting goaltender, and then find four other forwards and a defenseman to fill out the roster. Luckily for them Boeser is having a very mediocre year, but I don't think they would want to put themselves in a cap crunch unless the returning assets are over the moon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Just now, Cash or Czech said: If the Canucks trade JT Miller and retain 50%, they have $12.6mil in cap space to re-sign Brock Boeser, replace JT Miller's production, find a new starting goaltender, and then find four other forwards and a defenseman to fill out the roster. Luckily for them Boeser is having a very mediocre year, but I don't think they would want to put themselves in a cap crunch unless the returning assets are over the moon. Would you trade Kakko or Laf in a real hockey trade that brings Miller and Boeser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 13 minutes ago, Cash or Czech said: If the Canucks trade JT Miller and retain 50%, they have $12.6mil in cap space to re-sign Brock Boeser, replace JT Miller's production, find a new starting goaltender, and then find four other forwards and a defenseman to fill out the roster. Luckily for them Boeser is having a very mediocre year, but I don't think they would want to put themselves in a cap crunch unless the returning assets are over the moon. So JT Miller @50% for Georgiev, Chytil, Hunt, Pajuniemi, Brodzinski and Hajek? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 15 minutes ago, Cash or Czech said: If the Canucks trade JT Miller and retain 50%, they have $12.6mil in cap space to re-sign Brock Boeser, replace JT Miller's production, find a new starting goaltender, and then find four other forwards and a defenseman to fill out the roster. Luckily for them Boeser is having a very mediocre year, but I don't think they would want to put themselves in a cap crunch unless the returning assets are over the moon. This is when we can bring up Horvat, instead. What's appealing about Miller is an additional season at 2.52 (or whatever 50% is), he plays wing a d C, up and down the line up, wins draws, and kills penalties. His production is secondary and most likely unsustainable with less ice time and PP in NY. That needs to be taken into consideration when dealing away assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlairBettsBlocksEverything Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 quantity doesnt equal quality. I dont think they just do the trade to take away our spare parts 12 mil will get eaten up fast for them. Assume Boesser wants to get close to Peterson money, it still only leaves between 5-6 mil to bring in 5 forwards (only have 8 signed on their current squad next year) and at least one defenseman. Even if Boesser does take a cheaper short term deal, the numbers get pretty tight. that OEL trade is going to kill them for a long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 35 minutes ago, Cash or Czech said: If the Canucks trade JT Miller and retain 50%, they have $12.6mil in cap space to re-sign Brock Boeser, replace JT Miller's production, find a new starting goaltender, and then find four other forwards and a defenseman to fill out the roster. Luckily for them Boeser is having a very mediocre year, but I don't think they would want to put themselves in a cap crunch unless the returning assets are over the moon. Demko? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, Pete said: Demko? I was just going to say that. They committed to Demko already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc said: JT miller at 50% would be 2,6m a year. That's Nemeth or Chytil money. No problem dumping either/both of them. That said, I don't see a world where we get Miller with 50% retention. Would need Schneider, Kravtsov, 1st +, and I'm not interested in that. First, the math is bang-on here. We can afford a 2.6M cap hit for Miller AND Strome, unless Strome wants true market value. Which, let's be honest, is always the variable in the Strome conversations regardless of everything else. Miller's value has everything to do with two things: can they keep him for the meaningful years (probably no), and is he viewed as replaceable in the locker room (probably yes - he's a great voice when he's not visibly annoyed at ownership). Vancouver's well served having a ticket in the Shane Wright derby, the only real "loss" for them is already realized (burning a year of that Pettersson deal), and let's face it, nobody is going to give them more than we will. We're not moving Schneider - but we could move a key prospect or a young guy like Chytil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 53 minutes ago, Pete said: Demko? I was looking at the wrong area on CapFriendly for goalies. Halak is in a separate section slightly further down, and forgot Demko existed. Brain fart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 21 minutes ago, G1000 said: First, the math is bang-on here. We can afford a 2.6M cap hit for Miller AND Strome, unless Strome wants true market value. Which, let's be honest, is always the variable in the Strome conversations regardless of everything else. Miller's value has everything to do with two things: can they keep him for the meaningful years (probably no), and is he viewed as replaceable in the locker room (probably yes - he's a great voice when he's not visibly annoyed at ownership). Vancouver's well served having a ticket in the Shane Wright derby, the only real "loss" for them is already realized (burning a year of that Pettersson deal), and let's face it, nobody is going to give them more than we will. We're not moving Schneider - but we could move a key prospect or a young guy like Chytil. Seems Wright is destined for MTL, you don't hire Brucy BBQ to lose games... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 hour ago, ThirtyONE said: I think we found Larry' account! 1 hour ago, Flynn said: I can't be the only person who thinks the world of his sources and impeccable reporting. I'm a.... I mean Larry, is a critical cog in the fan experience in following this club. Dan Boyle is also a dickface. Well played, sir!! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Pete said: Seems Wright is destined for MTL, you don't hire Brucy BBQ to lose games... Maybe so, but as things stand, Vancouver is 7 points out of a playoff spot and has two in hand on the nearest team; that's not to mention that Edmonton, Calgary, and Winnipeg all have three in hand minimum on Vancouver AND more points. It's not sell time just yet, but there's certainly a decision coming within the next few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Chytil, Kravtsov and a third rounder for JT Miller at 50%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuddyInTheMiddle Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Trading JT Miller at the onset of his prime as a sweetner for a deal centered around Libor Hajek, and then trading back for him at a premium just as he is exiting those prime years, just seems like such a classic Rangers move. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 This conversation is hilarious thinking about just keeping Buchnevich at the onset of this year...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 13 minutes ago, jsm7302 said: This conversation is hilarious thinking about just keeping Buchnevich at the onset of this year...... If Buchnevich would sign for 2.5m, we wouldn't have even bothered with the "keep or not" conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 19 minutes ago, jsm7302 said: This conversation is hilarious thinking about just keeping Buchnevich at the onset of this year...... 5 minutes ago, G1000 said: If Buchnevich would sign for 2.5m, we wouldn't have even bothered with the "keep or not" conversation. There's also a little different playing style to consider.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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