Phil Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 Connor McDavid, on pace for 104 points (34 goals) in 56 games. Auston Matthews, on pace for 89 points (55 goals) in 56 games. Just must-see TV, every single night.
Karan Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 Pretty insane numbers even if they get close. But of course helped by how weak that North division is. Getting to beat up on Ottawa often certainly helps their cause.
siddious Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 Just fun to watch them play. Such insane skill. McDavid skates like hes a man among boys at times.
josh Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 If you ever watch McDavid & Edmonton, you'd know why I say dont trade off assets until McDavid demands a trade in the next few seasons.
Phil Posted February 22, 2021 Author Posted February 22, 2021 If you ever watch McDavid & Edmonton, you'd know why I say dont trade off assets until McDavid demands a trade in the next few seasons. I don't think there's a single thing I wouldn't trade for him (on its own) for him. Like, if that deal starts with Kakko, Lafreniere, Shesterkin, whatever. I don't care. The answer is yes.
Pete Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 I don't think there's a single thing I wouldn't trade for him (on its own) for him. Like, if that deal starts with Kakko, Lafreniere, Shesterkin, whatever. I don't care. The answer is yes.Nah. Cuz then you just wind up as the Oilers, now.
Phil Posted February 22, 2021 Author Posted February 22, 2021 Nah. Cuz then you just wind up as the Oilers, now. Not necessarily. I didn't say I'm giving them all up, I said I don't think there's a single player/piece I would balk at the deal centering around. Let me put it this way: would I trade, say, Lafreniere, Lundkvsit, Buchnevich, and a couple firsts for him? In a heart beat.
siddious Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 I don't think there's a single thing I wouldn't trade for him (on its own) for him. Like, if that deal starts with Kakko, Lafreniere, Shesterkin, whatever. I don't care. The answer is yes. As long as we are talking about trading for him today then yes I agree. in 10 years not so much
Pete Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 Not necessarily. I didn't say I'm giving them all up, I said I don't think there's a single player/piece I would balk at the deal centering around. Let me put it this way: would I trade, say, Lafreniere, Lundkvsit, Buchnevich, and a couple firsts for him? In a heart beat.Agree.
Karan Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 Definitely the most entertaining hockey player to watch. The amount of times he makes something happen from nothing is just insane.
josh Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 Nah. Cuz then you just wind up as the Oilers, now. I'd watch McDavid and the "Oilers" over the current Rangers.
Pete Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 I'd watch McDavid and the "Oilers" over the current Rangers. False equivalency. We're not talking the current Rangers. We're talking the Rangers in 2-3 years when McD asks for a trade.
Keirik Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 McDavid hands down. Hell I'd take Draisatl over Matthews too
Phil Posted February 22, 2021 Author Posted February 22, 2021 McDavid hands down. Hell I'd take Draisatl over Matthews too This is an open declaration of war against Puck Head.
Valriera Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 mcd is an outrageous player, matthews is simply good. to me the benchmark is try to find a comparison point for each of these players - matthews you can find guys that do/have done similar things in the league before. McDavid? Nobody
Dunny Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 Matthews is like a 200 foot Brett Hull, that plays Center. He's closer to McDavid than some would care to admit.
Keirik Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 This is an open declaration of war against Puck Head. LOL bring it on!
Phil Posted February 22, 2021 Author Posted February 22, 2021 Matthews is like a 200 foot Brett Hull, that plays Center. He's closer to McDavid than some would care to admit. Yup. He's an absolute force. To me, the NHL basically goes (1) McDavid, (2) Matthews, (3) everyone else, mix and match as you see fit. The first two never move. They're locked in. Like Gretzky/Lemieux.
Karan Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 McDavid hands down. Hell I'd take Draisatl over Matthews too Draisatl? lol A fantastic player for sure but great at racking up those secondary assists and power play assists. He doesn't really strike me as that impressive even strength. Matthews scoring ability is lethal and at a whole other level.
Long live the King Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 Draisatl? lol A fantastic player for sure but great at racking up those secondary assists and power play assists. He doesn't really strike me as that impressive even strength. Matthews scoring ability is lethal and at a whole other level.Last year Draisaitl 29 secondary assists out of 67. McDavid 25 secondary assists out of 63. Draisaitl is a 50 goal scorer. Draisaitl also won a playoff series. Sent from my SM-G960U using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk
Keirik Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 Draisatl? lol A fantastic player for sure but great at racking up those secondary assists and power play assists. He doesn't really strike me as that impressive even strength. Matthews scoring ability is lethal and at a whole other level. Well, I don’t know about that. From 18/19 to now, even strength Draisaitl is second in the entire league in even strength points. Matthews is 9th. Goals Matthews is 2nd, Leon is 4th with only 9 less. Primarybassists, Leon is 7th while Matthews is like 41st. If you look at all strengths combined points, Leon is 2nd while Matthews is 12th. Goals Leon is 2nd, Matthews is one behind for 3rd. Primary assists, Leon is 6th, Matthews is 49th. http://www.naturalstattrick.com/playerteams.php?fromseason=20182019&thruseason=20202021&stype=2&sit=all&score=all&stdoi=std&rate=n&team=ALL&pos=S&loc=B&toi=0&gpfilt=none&fd=&td=&tgp=410&lines=single&draftteam=ALL I think Leon gets very little respect. Matthews is a better pure goal scorer but Draisaitl is a pretty complete player IMO.
Long live the King Posted February 23, 2021 Posted February 23, 2021 Yea, if we're talking... Yup. He's an absolute force. To me, the NHL basically goes (1) McDavid, (2) Matthews, (3) everyone else, mix and match as you see fit. The first two never move. They're locked in. Like Gretzky/Lemieux. ...then Draisaitl is Jagr. Sent from my SM-G960U using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk
Keirik Posted February 23, 2021 Posted February 23, 2021 Yea, if we're talking... ...then Draisaitl is Jagr. Sent from my SM-G960U using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk I really like Draisaitl. 10 gwg last year, even penalty killed in the past. He really gets very little credit.
Phil Posted February 23, 2021 Author Posted February 23, 2021 Yea, if we're talking... ...then Draisaitl is Jagr. Sent from my SM-G960U using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Yup, that's probably right.
Karan Posted February 23, 2021 Posted February 23, 2021 I really like Draisaitl. 10 gwg last year, even penalty killed in the past. He really gets very little credit. Yeah I guess performing in the shadow of McDavid doesn't get him as much attention as say if he were the top dog in a big market franchise. Also he had a couple 'slow' years to start his career before reaching an elite level in the last 2 seasons, unlike McDavid who literally exploded out of the gates. But I don't know about getting very little credit...dude literally won the Hart Trophy and Ted Lindsay Award last season.
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