Phil Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Mobile link: Oshie's response is pretty funny: Mobile link: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 That's nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 That?s not even a penalty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 That's intentional elbow to the face lol This is worse than the Wilson hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 The elbow didn't even make contact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 The elbow didn't even make contact Ok, 1 inch above the elbow did. Suspensions are based on intent, and he intended to elbow him in the face. The elbow coming up on the follow through should be an automatic signal that there is malicious intent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 His shoulder made contact, Oshie was bent over. If he wanted to elbow him, we would?ve. Elbow barely coming up after the collision is not an automatic signal of intent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Elbow is coming up before the collision... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 No, it's not, he's bracing and leaning into the hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 No, it's not, he's bracing and leaning into the hit. Bullshit. That subtle shoulder move and leaning into contact is exactly how you wreck a guys face, and a guy with a history of so many cheapshots as Malkin doesn't get the benefit of doubt. Have you ever played football or lacrosse? When you feel contact coming from the side - ball carrier or about to be picked/blocked - you make that subtle lean and raise the shoulder. That is all it takes to blow through contact. The difference is that, in those sports, guys are a) not on ice and b) have facemasks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Bullshit. That subtle shoulder move and leaning into contact is exactly how you wreck a guys face, and a guy with a history of so many cheapshots as Malkin doesn't get the benefit of doubt. Have you ever played football or lacrosse? When you feel contact coming from the side - ball carrier or about to be picked/blocked - you make that subtle lean and raise the shoulder. That is all it takes to blow through contact. The difference is that, in those sports, guys are a) not on ice and b) have facemasks. Just because you disagree, doesn't make it bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Just because you disagree, doesn't make it bullshit. Lol, fair. Though I didn't really mean that your opinion is bullshit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Bullshit. That subtle shoulder move and leaning into contact is exactly how you wreck a guys face, and a guy with a history of so many cheapshots as Malkin doesn't get the benefit of doubt. Have you ever played football or lacrosse? When you feel contact coming from the side - ball carrier or about to be picked/blocked - you make that subtle lean and raise the shoulder. That is all it takes to blow through contact. The difference is that, in those sports, guys are a) not on ice and b) have facemasks. So hockey players aren't allowed to brace for contact and should just take the ass whooping? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 So hockey players aren't allowed to brace for contact and should just take the ass whooping? It's not bracing for contact, is my point. I should have said "you raise the shoulder to deliver the blow" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Oshie shouldn't lead with his face. Wouldn't there be a hearing announced by now if there was a issue with the play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Oshie shouldn't lead with his face. Wouldn't there be a hearing announced by now if there was a issue with the play? Well, this has absolutely nothing to do with what Malkin did. But when you start playing this game, it means that the Wilson hit is the product of Sundqvist not picking his head up, and who knows how many other suspensions where they player who got hit put themselves in a bad position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Well, this has absolutely nothing to do with what Malkin did. But when you start playing this game, it means that the Wilson hit is the product of Sundqvist not picking his head up, and who knows how many other suspensions where they player who got hit put themselves in a bad position. Except for the key difference. Oshie is the one initiating the contact. He is coming into Malkin's space to defend him. He should be hitting Malkin his his shoulder not his face. This would result in a shoulder to shoulder hit when Malkin braces for impact. Wilson on the other hand comes across the ice from Sundqvist's blind side and initiates the hit with Sundqvist's head as the primary point of contact. If Wilson would have hit him in the body instead of the head there would have been no issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Oshie is the one initiating the contact.. Doesn't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Doesn't matter. way to ignore the entire rest of the post and yea, it does matter. If you go to hit some one, and lead with your face, what do you expect to happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 It's not bracing for contact, is my point. I should have said "you raise the shoulder to deliver the blow" He did raise his shoulder (bracing for the collision), not his elbow. His elbow moving is a product of his skating momentum going forward and bracing for the hit that's coming from the right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrangers Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 No discipline for the hit. http://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/25215863/evgeni-malkin-pittsburgh-penguins-face-more-discipline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Shouldn't have been a penalty either The NHL view of the hit, a source told ESPN, is that Malkin was bracing for impact from the approaching Oshie, a smaller player than the Penguins center. He doesn't get an elbow or stick up, just a shoulder, in order to steady himself for a collision after he released the puck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 way to ignore the entire rest of the post and yea, it does matter. If you go to hit some one, and lead with your face, what do you expect to happen? What TJ Oshie did doesn't matter, b/c it's separate from Malkin raising his elbow. If a guy goes at you in the corner, you can't just put your elbow up to defend yourself. The Sundqvist argument is bunk, because if he didn't have his head down, the principle point of contact wouldn't be the head. Players are responsible to not hit others in the head, it doesn't matter what the other guy is doing, that's the precedent that the league has set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 He did raise his shoulder (bracing for the collision), not his elbow. His elbow moving is a product of his skating momentum going forward and bracing for the hit that's coming from the right. No it's not. League got it wrong. I've done this exact thing 500 times, and I guarantee that an athlete of Malkin's quality knew exactly what he was doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 What TJ Oshie did doesn't matter, b/c it's separate from Malkin raising his elbow. If a guy goes at you in the corner, you can't just put your elbow up to defend yourself. The Sundqvist argument is bunk, because if he didn't have his head down, the principle point of contact wouldn't be the head. Players are responsible to not hit others in the head, it doesn't matter what the other guy is doing, that's the precedent that the league has set. Eh, the elbow wasn't really what got engaged there, it was upper arm. I definitely see it as Oshie being low and Malkin bracing for impact. That is not a vicious elbow. It's not Mat Cooke territory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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