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Valriera

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  1. i mean this just sounds like people complaining that they got tricked into thinking these guys were going to be crosbys or mcdavids. Those players are special for a reason - that doesn't mean these two are anywhere remotely close to busts. Look, of course right now they're not producing how one might consider a first or second overall pick to play, but if your bar of comparison is the special players in the league, that's not realistic and you're going to be disappointed. Look at the list of number one draft picks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_first_overall_NHL_draft_picks. More often than not, these players are not lighting the world on fire in their first two seasons. MacKinnon is a great comparison, won Rookie of the Year his first season, 68, 38, 52, and 53 points in his first few seasons. Look at him now.

     

    Even (1st overall)Stamkos had 46 points in his first season.

     

    (2 overall)Eichel is 56, 57, 64 in his first couple of seasons.

     

    (2 overall)Jordan Staal hovers around the 40-50 point mark his whole career.

     

    These players need time. It's not an opinion, its a statistical fact based on every player to ever enter the league, outside of your truly, truly exceptional cases, most of these players need time to get going, even the best ones in the league. It's not sunshine and rainbows, of course not, it's just a fact. Crosbys and McDavids are uniquely special players, and you're really not going to get those guys outside of unique circumstances. And look, even when you do, you still need to do other stuff to win. Look at the oilers, with four firsts overall in a short window, still nothing to show for it.

     

    These players need time to learn their place in the league, and learn how to do the things they've been used to doing. Making the playoffs last season was great, but let's be honest, that was almost entirely due to a pair of MVP seasons from Panarin and Mika, and we're not winning a stanley cup on the backs of two players. No team does. We're going to need to expose the outstanding young core as much as we can so that they can learn, and learn, and learn, and then make our move when we think they're ready. That's not this year, it's probably not next year, but maybe the year after that it will be time to start thinking about it.

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  2. We need to keep in mind how stupidly young this team is. Yes, we have two exceptional players in their primes w/Zib and Panarin, but the rest of the lineup can count their pubes on two hands. Doubly so when you go down the line of the mission-critical players for the long-term success of this franchise. Kakko and Lafreniere are just 19. Chytil and Miller just turned 21. Shesterkin is still adjusting to the NHL. Adam Fox is the exception to the rule right now, and goddamn, he seems to be beyond special.

     

    We should expect some level of inconsistency - perhaps almost maddening inconsistency at times. We're seeing that - we did not play excellent hockey against Pittsburgh by any stretch, but we absolutely deserved better than 1 point from those games. What's upsetting is that the inconsistency is coming from players who should not be inconsistent. We should expect better from Kreider, Zib, Trouba, Strome, and to an extent Panarin. What's worse is that when you have half your top 6 playing with that kind of inconsistency, you're going to have a domino effect down the lineup with matchups - doubly so on the road.

     

    Exactly, half this team would not be out of college yet. Let them play, let them mess up, and enjoy it because clearly the talent is there and they need to just learn, learn, learn. Which means losing, so we're clear.

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