Sod16

1 hour ago, Flynn said:

Trocheck was the only big dollar skater to show up- That's why we lost.. Not because Miller was sitting on the beach. 

In defense of Miller, he's just as bad after a day at the beach as a day watching video.

2 hours ago, Pete said:

Bread: Italian or French 

Just so long as it is not Brezhnev era moldy Russian brown bread.

The trouble with using him as a center is that it takes a greater commitment than using him as a wing. When a center gets hurt, replacing him tends to be more complicated.

The Kakko situation is way down on our to do list for the summer.  If he kicks around here indefinitely as a $2.1m per year good defensive third line player, it won't bother me much.

He's not Keith, he's not Matthew, he's not even Walt.

45 minutes ago, BlairBettsBlocksEverything said:

I blame my Dad for doing this to me

I blame Gilligan's Island.  It was on Channel 9 before Saturday night Rangers road games back in the times of the primordial ooze.  I started watching when I was in Second Grade because that's the channel the TV was on after Gilligan's Island.

I'm not opposed to keeping him for one year, at which point the buyout will be cheaper and there will be relief in the first year, which will cooincide with the one year overlap between the Panarin contract and the first year of the Sheshty and LaF contracts.

Staal and Girardi played some pretty good hockey after we fans ran them out of town.  It's not implausible that he will improve next year.  For me it's all a matter of how much retention.  If someone would take him without retention for a used puck bag, I'd gladly chow on the puck bag that we receive.

He was terrible in the latter part of the season and playoffs, so I don't object to getting rid of him, but it should be noted that he played excellent hockey for a significant stretch after he came back from the injury this year.  Keeping him without a raise wouldn't be a big problem.

It's nice to lose fair and square and not spend the summer agonizing over what could have been.

With the cap and NTC situation, it's going to be difficult maintaining as good of a team as we have, let alone improving.  Cap hell really hits a year from now.

We are average in terms of size and muscle, average in terms of quickness and speed, and way above average in finesse.  That translates to a team that is average at even strength and excellent on the PP.

Our opportunities for a "hockey trade" to change this are limited.  I see Miller as the most likely candidate.  It was fitting that the back breaking goal last night occured off his failure to use his body to win a loose puck.  I'm tired of his failure to win pucks and failure to do something productive with one when he does get ahold of it.  He is flat lining.  He has value in the market.

They have to try to dump Trouba's contract either now or next off season.  They can't trade him for a player making significant money.  They are cap compelled to dump the whole contract if they can for essentially no return.

Panarin is coming off a career season.  His playoff was not as good as was hoped but contained very significant high points.  He's a Russian for whom NY is a big deal.  He took less to play here.  He's not waiving his NTC.  Fo-getta-bout-it.

3 hours ago, Pete said:

The first step, which should have been taken this season, would be two separate Mika and Kreider. 

They can still play together on the PP and PK.  The bromancers can still date, but they're going to see other people.

4 minutes ago, siddious said:

Luckily we only have 1 more season of trouba and panarin left.

Two season more of both.  Trouba becomes tradeable with a 15 team no trade list after this year.  They have no choice but to try to dump his contract with the cap strain to be caused by the one year overlap of the Panarin mega contract and the new large prospective contracts for Sheshty and LaF.  It remains to be seen whether someone will take him off our hands for essentially nothing considering that he is overpaid.  Perhaps there is a team willing to take his contract given that they will be getting him for free.

22 minutes ago, Pete said:

The likelihood of him getting traded is less this summer than last.

One reason I hope we can turn it around and make the finals is that I'm not ready to stomach the annual proposals for trades of players who are not going to get traded.

Re Wheeler, feel good stories don't always turn out to feel good on the ice.

The Mika one timer from the hash or angle needs to be written out of the PP playbook.  It is slow to develop, results in shots that miss the net, and no goals in recent memory.

Mika is going to conclude his career with several years as a very good, albiet grossly overpaid, third line center.

2 hours ago, siddious said:

I was thinking penalty shot. Then Igor stops

It ala richter on bure 

I was hoping for a penalty shot.  I liked our chances on that better than a two minute kill at that point.

3 hours ago, Sod16 said:

There is an equal chance that Wheeler will get victimized on a goal or score for us in OT.

Well, you have your answer.

There is an equal chance that Wheeler will get victimized on a goal or score for us in OT.

21 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said:

Well Duguay is certainly hitting the bottle today

Not bad ideas really.  I don't think Chytil is going to be a factor and Miller has been terrible.

Rodrigues should have been hit with embellishment.  If Trouba wasn't fined by the league, he should have been fined by the Rangers for taking an obvious penalty while play was continuing during a delayed call against him for another infraction.   In defense of Trouba, having won the Mark Messier Leadership Award, he was just trying to emulate Messier's take out of Doug Gilmour with an elbow in the '97 series with the Devils.

2 hours ago, Pete said:

Rempe at 10 minutes can make a difference in a win.

 

Rempe at 4 minutes in an OT win is coincidence not causality. 

His four minutes forced Lav to juggle his line the whole game.  As for causality, his penalty resulted in the Panthers' second goal.  I love what the guy brings, but he is a project, and the playoffs are not a good time for projects.

On 5/25/2024 at 8:16 AM, BrooksBurner said:

@Scott

 

Do Wennberg next please

No need!

1 hour ago, Pete said:

12 hours ago, Pete said:

He's going to be a cap casualty especially if you want to send a bag to Lafreniere. Removing Kakko and Gus isn't enough. 

You are probably right, It is fairly common for playoff heros to be dispatched in the off season when they don't make sense long term or capwise.

3 minutes ago, Steve said:

"Dale Rolfe's career was ended in the mid-1970's when he ripped apart his ankle after his skate caught in a rut. He consequently explored the possibility of suing the Garden. And Brad Park twice injured himself in the early part of the 1980's because of misfortune on the suspect ice. He was finally forced to include disability insurance in his playing contracts.  ''We were owned by a million-dollar corporation and had 10-cent ice,'' Park said. ''We always joked about how we all should have had a backup set of roller skates to play in once the ice got down to the concrete in a game.''

https://www.nytimes.com/1990/03/26/sports/at-the-garden-players-face-a-calamity-on-ice.html

Yep, we sacrificed our best player of the decade to Garden ice.  Article also could have mentioned Arnie Brown.  The Rangers spent years developing him until he became one of the top D men in the league.  At which point he promptly blew out his knee on Garden ice.

The Rangers almost forfeited a game to the Flyers back around 1987 due to the ice.  It was unbelievable that the game was played.  Portions of the playing area could not be approached.

5 hours ago, RangersIn7 said:

Heat and humidity outside can be a factor too, despite l the buildings being climate controlled.  

Oh the history of the ice at the current (1968) Garden.  The ice started out awful due to: (1) other event schedule at Garden, especially the circus); (2) weather outside; and (3) the rink being five floors above street level.  It used to be that every game was delayed and marred by the ritual of the linesman with the water bottle and puck patching ruts.  It got better over time.  Neil Smith brought in an ice making guru from Canada who used purified water.  No more circus.  Still, it's not good, and the Rangers have suffered more than their share of injuries at critical time because of it.  Like just about everything else about the 1968 Garden, it was not well conceived, which is why the arena had to be totally remade from the inside.

This series will be decided by when and if the Rangers PP wakes up.  It's that simple.  Scratching out wins like last night without any PPGs is just too tall an order to expect more than once or twice.