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  1. 5 hours ago, phillyb said:

    I think I saw a stat flashed on screen that was something like: Leafs have lost their last 5 playoff home games. Yikes. 

    Also more than 2 goals only once in the last 11 games.

    They have to do things different in the offseason, it's not working. Blow up the core, get someone who makes them work harder, whatever.

    But I am not a Leafs fan, if they don't change it's also great, more memes for the rest of us.

  2. 4 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said:

     

    3x Mahomes

    4x Brady

    1x Stafford

    1x Peyton Manning

    1x Foles

     

    By my estimation, that’s 1 out of 10 with a below top 5-10 QB in the league.

     

    The 10 years before that:


    2x Ben Roethlisberger
    2x Eli Manning

    1x Russel Wilson

    1x Flacco

    1x Aaron Rodgers

    1x Drew Brees

    1x Tom Brady

    1x Peyton Manning

     

    Only argument that can be made is Flacco was outside the top 10. I’m not even going to look to see if it’s true, and just give it to you. Again 1 out of 10.

     

    The odds in the last 20 years of winning a SB without a top 10 QB are 10%…at best.

     

    All of a sudden the bust rate on QBs in the draft doesn’t hit as hard.

    It doesn't? The Bears are on their third QB project in like 8 years, the Panthers will probably draft QB in 2 years again, cause their team sucks too hard for a young QB to carry it.

    Broncos haven't had a good QB since Manning left, though they sure tried.

    Yes you need a good QB to win a Superbowl, no randomly picking QBs in the first round doesn't get you one.

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  3. 1 hour ago, Br4d said:

    6 QB's in the first 12 picks.  Aside from Caleb Williams they are probably 65% likely to bust based on past draft results.

     

    The NFL has a really bad paradigm going on about drafting QB's in the 1st round.  The days when only 2 or 3 QB's went in the 1st round, sometimes only 1, were correct.  This recent QB Fever (from about 2014 onwards) is a case of about 16 teams out of 32 who do not understand what the odds are and are pretty bad at developing QB's anyway.

     

    2021's failures (because the NFL is on this really bad trip) led directly to 2024's likely failures.  Odds are 2024's failures will lead to the next totally overdrafted QB class in 2027 or so.

    Yh, most these QBs would have been advertised as "projects" and picked in the later rounds, but no one has patience anymore to develop. Well, except the Packers and oh look their guy looks solid. Fans are the biggest hinderance these days, never happy, always complaining and adding pressure, because Owners get scared they don't sell enough tickets if they don't draft shiny new toys.

    Broncos fan I watch occasionally made it almost his entire personality that he wanted a QB this draft, any QB, he got really salty when the Vikings got an additional 1st Rounder and threatened to trade up. lol (and they didn't even need it in the end)

    3 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said:


    What are the odds of winning Super Bowl without a top 10 QB in the league?

     

    I think they know the bust odds on drafting QBs, but when SB probabilities are generally dictated by needing a high end QB, it gets GMs to roll the dice at draft time.

     

    With that said, I don’t know what the Falcons are doing. Completely unnecessary reach. They just signed Cousins to big money and Penix is already 24 years old. He’s going to sit until his late 20s having not played an NFL game? Just strange. If it were a young 21 year old QB or something that’d be fine.

    Past 10 years? 50/50

    Though one might attribute that to Brady, who won 4 as a late pick, then there's Foles winning one as a third Round Pick.

    Mahomes got 3 as a 10th Overall, guess that counts, Stafford as 1st Overall, but not on the team that drafted him and the shell of Peyton Manning with the Broncos.

  4. Vikings pick the QB they wanted and didn't even have to pay a Premium for it.

    Didn't panic and just spend late round picks, of course people are bitching anyway because they love to do that and never liked the GM from Day 1.

     

    Also getting one of the Top-Edge prospects, if not THE Top Edge prospect.

    Solid first round, though not really many picks left now.

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