tphilly5 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 This really isn’t that complicated. Yes, Gorton and the Rangers got lucky with how the chips fell this summer. Yes, Gorton has done an excellent job and has barely put a foot wrong since announcing the rebuild, and the way he’s secured assets along the way put the Rangers in a position to capitalize once the chips fell as they did. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. Agreed. Gorton has put us in a position where if things don’t work out it will be extremely unlucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 I clarified it to the point where enough people get it. You're trolling and arguing to argue. Just move on already. We're going in circles. Yea, after taking pot shots at people. It's only trolling b/c you are willfully misunderstanding why I responded to begin with lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Yea, after taking pot shots at people. It's only trolling b/c you are willfully misunderstanding why I responded to begin with lolSure. Whatever keeps it moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBrowningPI Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 All great points on both sides but the real test for JG starts now on how he handles their cap crunch. Ideally he moves some middle 6ers for a bag of pucks and a buy out of Smith. Keeping Kreider and keeping Trouba in a reasonable contract. Getting the players on board to playing here is one thing but getting them signed within the cap seems much harder. I think that teams are keenly aware of the leverage they hold on the Rangers and will take some of our young prospects that nobody wanted to see go. The fuckin cap. Uhhh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 All great points on both sides but the real test for JG starts now on how he handles their cap crunch. Ideally he moves some middle 6ers for a bag of pucks and a buy out of Smith. Keeping Kreider and keeping Trouba in a reasonable contract. Getting the players on board to playing here is one thing but getting them signed within the cap seems much harder. I think that teams are keenly aware of the leverage they hold on the Rangers and will take some of our young prospects that nobody wanted to see go. The fuckin cap. Uhhh. More like fuckin' Sather for hamstringing this team with a bunch of bad contracts before he stepped down as GM. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 All great points on both sides but the real test for JG starts now on how he handles their cap crunch. Ideally he moves some middle 6ers for a bag of pucks and a buy out of Smith. Keeping Kreider and keeping Trouba in a reasonable contract. Getting the players on board to playing here is one thing but getting them signed within the cap seems much harder. I think that teams are keenly aware of the leverage they hold on the Rangers and will take some of our young prospects that nobody wanted to see go. The fuckin cap. Uhhh. Surely the first step towards avoiding that is to steer well clear of a new deal with Kreider, unless he’s willing to give a significant discount. Signing him to 7m will lead the Rangers to cap hell as sure as night follows day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBrowningPI Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Here's the keys to your 1999 Cadillac with 140,000 miles on it, good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfrancesa Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Agreed. Gorton has put us in a position where if things don’t work out it will be extremely unlucky. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Any chance a guy like georgiev could get packaged with a smith to a team like say, columbus, that might need a goalie and someone that fits a torts style. I assume a bit of saalry retention even though they have the space. Still though. Also.....whats bri boyle doing for a 4th line center role, slide up if necessary, leadership, trade value if the time cmes and we arent in a playoff position, say 2x2 or so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlairBettsBlocksEverything Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 If Smith ends up getting buried in Hartford, and decides he doesn't want to play in the AHL for the rest of his contract, what are the odds that he accepts to go go unconditional waivers for the purposes of terminating his contract so he can maybe sign in Europe somewhere? I mean that is almost $9mil he'd be walking away from so I doubt it, but maybe we can get some serious cap relief that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Any chance a guy like georgiev could get packaged with a smith to a team like say, columbus, that might need a goalie and someone that fits a torts style. I assume a bit of saalry retention even though they have the space. Still though. Also.....whats bri boyle doing for a 4th line center role, slide up if necessary, leadership, trade value if the time cmes and we arent in a playoff position, say 2x2 or so? I don't think you can move Georgiev until you know what you have in Shestyorkin, especially since any veteran backup goalie would cost more. I think trading a goalie is probably something they do next year, though I agree with packaging one of them as a sweetener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Flyers give Chris Stewart PTO. That would have been a good move by the Rangers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 I?m guessing that?s sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Flyers give Chris Stewart PTO. That would have been a good move by the Rangers Didn’t Chris Stewart like cocaine an awful lot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Didn’t Chris Stewart like cocaine an awful lot? He just liked the way it smelled! :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 I think if they’re after Boyler it’s a 1 year deal in all likelihood, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 I think if they’re after Boyler it’s a 1 year deal in all likelihood, no? Who's after him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 There’s some chat the Rangers are looking at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 There’s some chat the Rangers are looking at him. I can't imagine they can do anything more than look at him right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBrowningPI Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 He just liked the way it smelled! :rofl::rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 x 2 per for boyle would be nice. He also makes a great deadline trade piece if it looks like he's not needed here (if not in playoff contention) and offers great leadership/playoff performance if we do get to the postseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 No Boyle. No point. Shouldn’t be trying to compete. Don’t need old farts taking spots from kids... (unless Kreider is traded, then they need a big bodied enforcer. Boyle ain’t that.) Rather target a change of scenery guy with upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Kreider is hardly a “big bodied enforcer” to be fair. And Boyle is a fucking unit. I’m not crazy about the idea, but I guess it depends on whether you think the kids should develop on the 4th line or in Hartford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Kreider isn’t an enforcer, but he’s a top 6 forward. You need to replace that physicality. And if it’s a bottom 6 forward, he has to bring an Eli mate lacking in the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty9 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 If Smith ends up getting buried in Hartford, and decides he doesn't want to play in the AHL for the rest of his contract, what are the odds that he accepts to go go unconditional waivers for the purposes of terminating his contract so he can maybe sign in Europe somewhere? I mean that is almost $9mil he'd be walking away from so I doubt it, but maybe we can get some serious cap relief that wayunion won't let that happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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