LindG1000 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Yes would make things for the rangers a lot easier. Maybe rangers can entice them to take him with a 3rd rounder or something Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I don't think a third rounder is worth the relatively miniscule cap space we'd lose with the buyout. More to the point, I don't think we should be giving Seattle anything to nudge them in one way or the other - whomever they take is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 so many good players left unprotected most could use that change of scenery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Albatrosss Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Teams cant wait to get rid of these big contracts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Teams cant wait to get rid of these big contracts Yup. If I'm Seattle I'm taking Johansen pretty easily though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Here's my guess: https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/482977 Niederreiter - Gourde - Tarasenko Bailey - Kerfoot - Donskoi Namestnikov - Tierney - Blackwell Ritchie - Eakin - Bunting Gambrell Giordano - DeMelo Klefbom - Zadorov Pettersson - Allard Kulak/Bowey Driedger Vanecek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 I'm not convinced that Seattle is well-served to go after a 37 year old defensemen in Giordano. Look at the goalies available. https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/31838744/seattle-kraken-plan-expansion-draft-nhl-teams-leave-players-available-selection Price, Bishop, Quick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Even at 37, he's the closest thing to a 1D they can get and would provide a valuable veteran presence. They're going to have to rely on all three pairs anyway. Seattle is also already apparently hard after Driedger. I'd imagine he'd be their starter. Vanecek showed he can split games for a good team and would be a cheap backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Can Buffalo just fold, pay an expansion fee, and choice a new team from these lists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Here's my guess: https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/482977 Niederreiter - Gourde - Tarasenko Bailey - Kerfoot - Donskoi Namestnikov - Tierney - Blackwell Ritchie - Eakin - Bunting Gambrell Giordano - DeMelo Klefbom - Zadorov Pettersson - Allard Kulak/Bowey Driedger VanecekAm I wrong in thinking that's a putrid defense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Am I wrong in thinking that's a putrid defense? Given what's available, yes. Most anyone available is some slightly overpaid 4-6 defenseman. So I shot for mostly younger options with the exception of Giordano. It's a largely unspectacular defense but they're safe picks. Fill out with UFAs not selected in expansion if need be. Sign someone like David Savard instead of keeping Zadorov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Am I wrong in thinking that's a putrid defense? No, but they'll have assets to mess with both in side-deals, overages, and cap space. It's almost irresponsible to not be in on Hamilton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Anaheim Henrique. Arizona Goligoski. Boston Ritchie. Buffalo McCabe. Calgary Giordano. Carolina Niederreiter. Chicago de Haan. Colorado Donskoi. Columbus Domi. Dallas Oleksiak. Detroit Stetcher. Edmonton Klefbom. Florida Driedger. LA Athanasiou. Minnesota Kahkonen. Montreal Price. Nashville Granlund. NJ Butcher. NYI Eberle. NYR Gauthier. Ottawa Dadonov. Philly Voracek. Pittsburgh Zucker. San Jose Donato. St Louis Dunn. Tampa Gourde. Toronto Kerfoot. Vancouver Harmonic. Washington Dillon. Winnipeg Demelo. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Anaheim Henrique. Arizona Goligoski. Boston Ritchie. Buffalo McCabe. Calgary Giordano. Carolina Niederreiter. Chicago de Haan. Colorado Donskoi. Columbus Domi. Dallas Oleksiak. Detroit Stetcher. Edmonton Klefbom. Florida Driedger. LA Athanasiou. Minnesota Kahkonen. Montreal Price. Nashville Granlund. NJ Butcher. NYI Eberle. NYR Gauthier. Ottawa Dadonov. Philly Voracek. Pittsburgh Zucker. San Jose Donato. St Louis Dunn. Tampa Gourde. Toronto Kerfoot. Vancouver Harmonic. Washington Dillon. Winnipeg Demelo. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk You're $11.5M over the cap with 6 UFAs and 4 RFAs. That's an expensive group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 I knew I should’ve looked up the cap hit for the players. That’s what I get for half assing it Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Use CapFriendly's simulator: https://www.capfriendly.com/expansion-draft/seattle It'll calculate for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Even at 37, he's the closest thing to a 1D they can get and would provide a valuable veteran presence. They're going to have to rely on all three pairs anyway. Seattle is also already apparently hard after Driedger. I'd imagine he'd be their starter. Vanecek showed he can split games for a good team and would be a cheap backup. fair, but you’re getting one year of giordano before he can walk. he’s not exactly a cornerstone you can build around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 fair, but you’re getting one year of giordano before he can walk. he’s not exactly a cornerstone you can build around Can you really say that about anyone available in expansion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 if you grab a kid you can hope he will develop. i understand why you are going with a vet with a proven track record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 fair, but you’re getting one year of giordano before he can walk. he’s not exactly a cornerstone you can build around Trade bait at the deadline to stockpile draft picks Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Here's my guess: https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/482977 Made some adjustments. Drouin - Gourde - Tarasenko McCann - Tierney - Bailey Namestnikov - Athanasiou - Donskoi Ritchie - Grant - Blackwell Gambrell/L'Esperance Giordano - DeMelo Klefbom - Miller/Zadorov Bean - Pettersson Kukan Allard Driedger Vanecek There's $17M to sign the UFA and RFAs as well as pursue an FA C and D to improve upon what's there. Could trade one of Pettersson, Miller, or Zadorov given the abundance of 4-6 D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Made some adjustments. Drouin - Gourde - Tarasenko McCann - Tierney - Bailey Namestnikov - Athanasiou - Donskoi Ritchie - Grant - Blackwell Gambrell/L'Esperance Giordano - DeMelo Klefbom - Miller/Zadorov Bean - Pettersson Kukan Allard Driedger Vanecek There's $17M to sign the UFA and RFAs as well as pursue an FA C and D to improve upon what's there. Could trade one of Pettersson, Miller, or Zadorov given the abundance of 4-6 D.Also realizing Gourde there... Doubt they take that C group with Duchene and RyJo there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Also realizing Gourde there... Doubt they take that C group with Duchene and RyJo there. I mean there are a few picks there that are probably unlikely but there’s no way to account for side deals with cap friendly. I’d anticipate that at the very least Toronto and Tampa have side deals with Seattle. Why would Toronto lose recently acquired McCann? I’m sure Tampa would prefer to lose any of Johnson, Palat, or Killorn before Gourde. It’s harder to anticipate those exchanges because there wasn’t much consistency with Vegas’ deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Also realizing Gourde there... Doubt they take that C group with Duchene and RyJo there. I wonder what Nashville gives them to take Duchene or RyJo though. The C crop is thin, sure, but is it thin enough to take on either of those contracts with those two looking like less than half the players they used to be? I'd guess Seattle's choices with Nashville are: -Get paid to take one of those albatross contracts -Take Jarnkrok or Sissons and fill a bottom 6 spot -Negotiate with and take Granlund/Haula Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Much easier using cap friendly. Eberle Islanders, Drouin Canadiens, Domi Blue Jackets, Niederreiter Hurricanes, Gourde Lightning, Dadonov Senators, Donskoi Avalanche, Kerfoot Maple Leafs, Jarnkrok Predators, Pitlick Coyotes, Milano Ducks, Wagner Kings, Gambrell Sharks, Carpenter Blackhawks, Gadjovich Canucks, Gauthier Rangers, L'Esperance Stars, Merkley Devils. Giordano Flames, Gostisbehere Flyers, Klefbom Oilers, Dillon Capitals, DeMelo Jets, Stetcher Red Wings, Clifton Bruins, Borgen Sabres, Dunn Blues. DeSmith Penguins, Kahkonen Wild, Drieger Panthers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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