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    Quote Originally Posted by Sod16 View Post
    I'm so sick of this concept of Divisions that supposedly foster rivalries. As a former season ticket holder for two teams, I can testify that the in division games were the hardest to get rid of because there was more demand for the teams that don't visit often. Do we really have more of a rivalry with Columbus and Carolina than we do Boston, Tampa, and Montreal. They just won't quit this Division nonsense, which distorts the standings and playoff matchups inequitably.
    everyone loved the new division format when it was introduced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    everyone loved the new division format when it was introduced.
    Did they? I don't remember that at all. Uneven number of teams in each division, the metropolitan makes no sense...

    Who loved it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Did they? I don't remember that at all. Uneven number of teams in each division, the metropolitan makes no sense...

    Who loved it?
    Idk pull up the thread. There were a select few that didn’t like it. Everyone else was nutting
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    Quote Originally Posted by G1000 View Post
    IMO there's three elements to this:

    1 - With the structure they're talking about, there's not really playoff revenue to be split, so there's no real "loss" for the Rangers there. Blackhawks are in this boat too - they'll jump picks pending below item 3.
    2 - One of Stutzle, Holtz, Perfetti, Rossi, Raymond, or Lundell will be there at 7. I'll take that.
    3 - Does "not in playoffs" mean "in lottery", or do the best of three losers go into the lottery too? If I'm Anaheim, Montreal, or Buffalo, I'm going from "go go draft lottery" to "in the playoffs", which is...wack.
    No team wants lost revenue. The regular season money they lost out on is relatively minimal. Playoff money would be fairly substantial. Even with an early exit, it’s still a fairly nice sized chunk of change.
    It sucks if they’re losing it, and while it’s no consolation, they’re one of the few franchises that it won’t have a hugely adverse effect upon. They’ll survive and do so without any real consequences.

    Agree on 2. If they’re picking at 7 or higher, there’s a great player there to be had. And while it’s unlikely cause it never happens, even if the pick ends up at 7 in this draft, plus the other 1st they have and having good assets in the organization makes a move up more possible.

    They may not be able to actually do it, but they conceivably have the assets to do it.

    No idea how they would do the lottery if they decide to go with the 24 team format.
    I would think they’d limit it to the 7 teams that are not going to the playoffs. I don’t see how a team should get a playoff spot AND lottery odds, even if they’re small.
    But we will have to see how they decide to work it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    Idk pull up the thread. There were a select few that didn’t like it. Everyone else was nutting
    I'd like to see that as well. Hard to remember back that far but I don't recall many people "nutting" about the wild card or Florida teams in the same division as MTL.

    I honestly don't understand the point of divisions. Maybe East vs West, but as others mentioned, you can't give away those tickets vs Carolina. Best teams should make the playoffs, period. The shitty teams get the reward for the higher draft pick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    everyone loved the new division format when it was introduced.
    My guess is when Seattle joins the league, they might go to an NFL style format, 2 conferences & 4 divisions.
    Rangers are not committed to winning. It's an old boys club.

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    NHL Considering 24-Team Playoff on Return; Rangers Out?

    Quote Originally Posted by jsrangers View Post
    My interest in hockey is pretty much non-existent at this point. Pulling the plug and working towards next year makes the most sense to me. Impacting next years schedule to shoe horn some make shift end to this season isn't a good choice imo.

    As for this years possible 1st rd 7th pick - can we please avoid the next Lias at all cost?
    Same here. Been through a few of lockouts, lost a season, rather start fresh next year....with fans in the building
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka Drunkenski View Post
    Same here. Been through a few of lockouts, lost a season, rather start fresh next year....with fans in the building

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    The other thing is what happens on July 1st when contracts are up? Are guys that have their contracts up going to want to risk getting hurt right before a new season starts or without a contract going into next season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka Drunkenski View Post
    Same here. Been through a few of lockouts, lost a season, rather start fresh next year....with fans in the building
    I think one of the big things the NHL is very worried about is the fact that there is a real possibility that regardless of them playing this year, next year already has the potential to be impacted and there is no guarantee that next season has fans in the building to start it off. For any pro league, that combined with no recouped revenue right now would be crippling for its future.

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    I'm 100% in favor of the option that leaves the Rangers out of the playoffs and in the lottery drawing, thus, leaving a chip on the player's shoulders for next season.

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    https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1974885

    Rangers in, in newest proposal....

    And we get the.....Hurricanes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsm7302 View Post
    https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1974885

    Rangers in, in newest proposal....

    And we get the.....Hurricanes!
    Winner of Rangers/Canes plays Washington too.

    If this ends up being the proposal, I kind of like the matchups we have.
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    That's a helluva start for sure. History is on our side. I'll be happy to see them play even though the best case would be the draft pick for us. Hell, a championship would be nice even with the asterisk.

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    A break that may be longer than most between season breaks, followed by a short training camp, and then on to the playoffs. Now that's a recipe for integrity. I will say, however, when it comes to the last two rounds, having teams that are by then in good form but not as beaten up as teams usually are at that point would be interesting. I wish they would just call it off given that this method of awarding the cup is a farce and it's already at the point where doing it is going to compromise a second season as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsm7302 View Post
    That's a helluva start for sure. History is on our side. I'll be happy to see them play even though the best case would be the draft pick for us. Hell, a championship would be nice even with the asterisk.
    If we win, there's no asterisk.

    If we lose, there is.

    That's how being a fan works
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sod16 View Post
    A break that may be longer than most between season breaks, followed by a short training camp, and then on to the playoffs. Now that's a recipe for integrity. I will say, however, when it comes to the last two rounds, having teams that are by then in good form but not as beaten up as teams usually are at that point would be interesting. I wish they would just call it off given that this method of awarding the cup is a farce and it's already at the point where doing it is going to compromise a second season as well.
    This isn't so much directed at you, but as hockey fans, we pretend that there are these weird sacred cows around competition, and I don't understand why people go after things like "we're going to tweak some things to have a pretty awesome playoffs" as a joke, or as a farce, or as a whatever.

    For the first 20+ years of its existence, the Stanley Cup was a challenge cup. It was literally "hey, we'll play you for the Cup" with all sorts of funky rules. Best of three, two games - most goals wins, one-and-done, teams of different leagues challenging each other....and so on.

    In the first part of the original six era (plus the Americans), the top six teams made the playoffs and the winner of 1v2 (yep) faced the winner of the 3-4-5-6 bracket for the Cup.

    In the expansion era, it was common for anywhere between 52% and 80% of the teams in the league to make the playoffs.

    Heck, the Cup didn't even technically belong to the NHL until 1947.

    It's the very essence of the history of the NHL playoffs to embrace the weirdness and go with it.

    Long story short - I don't care if they do a 24 team playoff that runs into late September, blitz a 1 month offseason, and start the preseason around Election Day. All good. I'll just be happy to see the games played.
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    Agree. If Rangers somehow wins the cup this year Im celebrating like it was any other year. Would even have to win more than 16 playoff games, so it will be even better.

    And if they bust in the 1st round I would think they get a top 10 pick (or atleast close), and that would be sweet too.

    So its either a «playoff run» or a top 10 pick. Win-win.


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    This will be the hardest Cup to win in modern history.

    Pandemic
    Layoff due to sheltering
    24 Team
    No home ice advantage
    Condensed schedule
    Also Pandemic

    Fuck an asterisk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    This will be the hardest Cup to win in modern history.

    Pandemic
    Layoff due to sheltering
    24 Team
    No home ice advantage
    Condensed schedule
    Also Pandemic

    Fuck an asterisk.
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