MuddyInTheMiddle Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Wasn’t Zucc approaching UFA vs Strome approaching RFA? Correct. I think the logic still applies, and is even more re-enforced as Zuccarello was 4 months away from negotiating a long term contract. The best Strome gets is a strong arbitration award, and hopes his production is sustained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuddyInTheMiddle Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 I mean, I don't want to, but that's probably where they end up. I agree with you, if they do not use their leverage now. Just don't think you can build a competitive team paying everyone a market(or near market) contract when they are due. Really think that you need 1-2 of these savvy, below market contracts to load up on the proper amount of talent to put you over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 bye Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karan Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 It's probably 5x5. Yea probably. I think the conversation from Strome's camp will start at $5M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Yea probably. I think the conversation from Strome's camp will start at $5M. I don't think $5 million is out of the question...the big issue is the term with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LONG LONG LONG TIME FAN Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 How many players in the history of sports took a paycut after posting the best year of their career at 26? Do you know the answer, oh exalted one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LONG LONG LONG TIME FAN Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Amazingly no one has mentioned the salary cap as to Strome. Makes one wonder.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Do you know the answer, oh exalted one? Sidney Crosby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Do you know the answer, oh exalted one? I'll answer when you learn what the salary cap is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 I'll answer when you learn what the salary cap is. Come on Pete! Give the guy a clue (since he hasn't one to begin with)! Here I'll help him: Pronounced: (SAL-ah-REE - CAP) Hey Pappy, It's NOT the hat you buy with your welfare check.... :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Am I crazy to think 5x5 isn't bad for a 2nd line center? I'd love for him to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Am I crazy to think 5x5 isn't bad for a 2nd line center? I'd love for him to stay. I see him as a 1/2 C with Panarin. He's a 3C otherwise. I wouldn't invest that kind of term and cash in a 3C. I'm willing to bet that Filip Chytil is the better C option for the top 6 within the next year, maybe 2. That's why I'd be good with Strome on a short term deal (3 years or less), but not a long term deal. The argument in favor of Strome seems to have been: well don't move him away from Panarin. Well, we aren't guaranteed for that combination to work for 5 years just because it's worked for half a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Am I crazy to think 5x5 isn't bad for a 2nd line center? I'd love for him to stay. Watching Strome before this season, I wouldnt want 5x5. Such a Rangers thing to do - hand out a heft contract for a nice stretch of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Am I crazy to think 5x5 isn't bad for a 2nd line center? I'd love for him to stay. This is where I'm at as well. He reaches market at 31...later...and the whole time he's here, he has Panarin (idk if he plays with him for all 5 years, but if he keeps putting up these numbers, no reason to move him). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Watching Strome before this season, I wouldnt want 5x5. Such a Rangers thing to do - hand out a heft contract for a nice stretch of games. I wouldn't just call it a Ranger thing to do... if he was on another team and was hitting the open market this year, we'd be clamoring to sign him and there would be a lot of competition for him. That being said, I don't think he gets that high. 4 x 4.25 or thereabouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tphilly5 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Am I crazy to think 5x5 isn't bad for a 2nd line center? I'd love for him to stay. Hoping he is not our 2nd line center in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 I wouldn't just call it a Ranger thing to do... if he was on another team and was hitting the open market this year, we'd be clamoring to sign him and there would be a lot of competition for him. That being said, I don't think he gets that high. 4 x 4.25 or thereabouts. I?m fearing a 6x6, honestly. And if other teams want to pay that, that?s fine. I don?t think that?s a good deal for the Rangers to offer Strome. You can get Tyler Johnson for very little over the summer, at 5m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Hoping he is not our 2nd line center in the near future. This is the argument that I just don't understand. Find a 2nd line center in the NHL scoring more than him right now. Other than Draisaitl, who has been paired up with McDavid for long stretches, I can't find too many looking casually at it. Why can't Strome be that guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 This is the argument that I just don't understand. Find a 2nd line center in the NHL scoring more than him right now. Other than Draisaitl, who has been paired up with McDavid for long stretches, I can't find too many looking casually at it. Why can't Strome be that guy? Costs. If we’re taking about $6m+ a season, vs Chytil getting that time and adding a different prospect/pick in the fold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 This is the argument that I just don't understand. Find a 2nd line center in the NHL scoring more than him right now. Other than Draisaitl, who has been paired up with McDavid for long stretches, I can't find too many looking casually at it. Why can't Strome be that guy? Because the oh-so-patient fan base needs to see the 21 year old "home grown" there. I actually think the even more Ranger thing to do would be assume anyone will produce with Panarin, move Strome, and then throw Chytil into the fire playing 18:00 against other team's top D...just because he was successful in curated situations for 15:00 a night. I won't even get into the PK, the faceoffs, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Costs. If we’re taking about $6m+ a season, vs Chytil getting that time and adding a different prospect/pick in the fold. How do we even know that Chytl will be able to handle that role? I get it. I don't love the idea of long years for Strome either but since he's been a Ranger, he's performed pretty consistently. Chytil is still kind of an unknown at this point. He's got 17 points this year in 39 games with pretty solid ice-time. I like what he looks like but he certainly needs to take more steps to get to be what Strome is now. How many years will that take? The $6m+ number you're throwing out now sounds excessively high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Well, like, Strome's not great at those things, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 How do we even know that Chytl will be able to handle that role? I get it. I don't love the idea of long years for Strome either but since he's been a Ranger, he's performed pretty consistently. Chytil is still kind of an unknown at this point. He's got 17 points this year in 39 games with pretty solid ice-time. I like what he looks like but he certainly needs to take more steps to get to be what Strome is now. How many years will that take? The $6m+ number you're throwing out now sounds excessively high. 6m for a 1C pacing 70pts? Look at all of the things Pete mentioned. 6m would be a bargain! Like others said, it’s his last chance for a big cash contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Well, like, Strome's not great at those things, either.right so I guess the idea is develop means throwing those players out there to fail more and more at those things, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 6m for a 1C pacing 70pts? Look at all of the things Pete mentioned. 6m would be a bargain! Like others said, it?s his last chance for a big cash contract.We've officially reached Friday night level trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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