Gravesy Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 No, they probably aren’t. The first line is excellent, and the best 1st line they’ve had in god knows how long. But the way the bottom 6 is set up they’re practically icing two 4th lines and the D is highly suspect. If you want a knee jerk based on 2 games the lack of a 2c is really hurting that second line. You need one or both of Krav/Chytil to sort themselves out and come up to play a Svechnikov type role on the 3rd line. You need some of the D to step up and you need someone to own the 2c role. It’s been really fun so far though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfrancesa Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 At some point zib and panarin will probably need to be separated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyckrash Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 I can see the team making a trade for a capable passing 2C. However, who is going to be available? Who would we be able to move for that position without breaking the bank? - NYCKrash....LGR!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfrancesa Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 I can see the team making a trade for a capable passing 2C. However, who is going to be available? Who would we be able to move for that position without breaking the bank? - NYCKrash....LGR!! Nobody. Good centers are hard to find and cost a lot of cap space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Why would they trade for one when they can grow one...? Chytil Henriksson Barron All have 2C potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slobberknocker Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 love the start but need to pump the brakes here. this remains a build, for maybe 2-3 more years. centers developing and defense on the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 love the start but need to pump the brakes here. this remains a build, for maybe 2-3 more years. centers developing and defense on the way. It's hard not to be somewhat excited, Slobby...but I hear ya man! ;) That tic tac toe play on Saturday night made me drop my drink!!! Georgie looked really good too!! There's a ton of room for improvement, but they are showing progress. They did a lot more good things in the game against Ottawa. They closed gaps a bit more and their support on the puck, and breakouts were much better....not tremendous, but better. That Power play is absolutely lethal with Panarin though, and with Truoba having that offensive player mentality on the PP??? Wow! That guy can fuckin' hammer it from the point!! It's all about patience from here though Slobby, you're right. This season is going to have it's ups and downs, so I'm ready....excited about watching these guys grow, but I know there's going to be some valleys between the peaks! :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Top 6 in the conference, no. But the rabble that sneak into the 7 and 8 spot, that could happen. There are some bad teams at the low end of the conference. You don't have to be great, just better than the dregs around you. Agreed. They're a seriously flawed team, but one great scoring line, a good PP, and good goaltending can get you ~95 points to sneak in. Plus, this team should get better as the year goes on, with all the young players. If you can steal points in the first 15-20 games and get some improvement from Hajek/Fox, it's not impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Agreed. They're a seriously flawed team, but one great scoring line, a good PP, and good goaltending can get you ~95 points to sneak in. Plus, this team should get better as the year goes on, with all the young players. If you can steal points in the first 15-20 games and get some improvement from Hajek/Fox, it's not impossible. You could be right, but I get the opposite feeling on this team. That they’re the type of talented, but young and flawed team that comes out of the gate piping hot but then cools down and falls off as the rigours of an NHL season start taking its toll. Could go either way I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Haha Zib auto correct! LOL Is Pete banned? Whats happened here lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Is Pete banned? Whats happened here lol Looks like he got a Game Misconduct for 3rd man in! :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 You could be right, but I get the opposite feeling on this team. That they’re the type of talented, but young and flawed team that comes out of the gate piping hot but then cools down and falls off as the rigours of an NHL season start taking its toll. Could go either way I suppose. Possible - but lines 2-4 can't score any less than they are right now lol. There's not much falling off to do, though I agree with your point. But, say you start 14-6-0 (28 points). You can go 28-24-10 (66) the rest of the way and hit 94 points being a sub .500 team for 3/4 of the season. 94 certainly doesn't mean you're in, but it gets you to a point where you're in the conversation, even if your play has dropped significantly from the good start. Especially in a conference where there are ~10 teams who all have significant flaws too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 They're exactly like Renney teams. One line, couple of D who can move the puck, the rest are JAGs. Maybe when Kravtsov and Chytil get here, we can talk. But right now...They're no way a playoff team. Pretty much this. Panarin - sure, Zib on his way to hopefully his 2nd productive season. Blah - Kreider, Buch, Strome. Kakko still a rookie. Bottom 6 is pedestrian and composed of nonthreatening role players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 It would be a travesty if this team squeaks in as the 8 seed just to get knocked out. I'd rather they not make it and be eligible for the lottery again. Just one more solid draft class is all I want. Then we can start turning it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Yes. With a caveat. Goaltending. If the tandem plays above the depth of the F/D then yes. The biggest problem is what they do once the playoffs start. Do they do with whoever had the better year, or who deserves it more if his name isn’t the king? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 It would be a travesty if this team squeaks in as the 8 seed just to get knocked out. I'd rather they not make it and be eligible for the lottery again. Just one more solid draft class is all I want. Then we can start turning it up. Honestly, I just want Rangers playoff hockey back, once you?re in, there?s always a chance. Wont be mad if they dont make it, but it would be fun if they did. Just making the playoff and playing some playoff games is also big for this young team. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 It would be a travesty if this team squeaks in as the 8 seed just to get knocked out. I'd rather they not make it and be eligible for the lottery again. Just one more solid draft class is all I want. Then we can start turning it up. I'll take some playoff hockey and experience for the youngins rather than a miniscule chance to move up to top 3 or a remote chance to win #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 I'll take some playoff hockey and experience for the youngins rather than a miniscule chance to move up to top 3 or a remote chance to win #1. I bet you said the same thing last season and look what happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 I bet you said the same thing last season and look what happen. Look what happened in St. Louis. And the Rangers had a better percent chance at winning the cup than the #2 overall pick. Not sure I'd test those chances again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 To each his own, I just don't see this team being able to pull that off. Yet. I've said it before, I want to enjoy watching them, unlike last year. I hope the team plays very competitively this season but ultimately loses a bunch of 1 goal games and ends up towards the bottom of the conference. I personally think there is more long term value in a higher draft spot, especially in this draft, than 4-5 playoff games. Let them start making their playoff runs next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 I bet you said the same thing last season and look what happen. Betting on getting extremely lucky isn't a good strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Betting on getting extremely lucky isn't a good strategy. Did you read my previous post? What's luck have to do with finishing towards the bottom of the conference and securing your own top 10ish pick? That is what I am hoping for. Hitting in the lottery is just another added bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Did you read my previous post? What's luck have to do with finishing towards the bottom of the conference and securing your own top 10ish pick? That is what I am hoping for. Hitting in the lottery is just another added bonus. I did. Except you didn't highlight the scenario of being happy with a top 10 pick. You highlighted the scenario of being eligible for the lottery again, which is a top 3 pick. I'd rather make the playoffs and pick 16th-18th than pick 10th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 They'll still be looking at a #16ish pick if they make the playoffs. Probably 8-12 if they don't. I'll take the playoffs. If they're in the playoffs, it's likely a lot of things went right, and vice versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 They'll still be looking at a #16ish pick if they make the playoffs. Probably 8-12 if they don't. I'll take the playoffs. If they're in the playoffs, it's likely a lot of things went right, and vice versa. Yup. It would mean a lot more than just Zibanejad and Panarin having good seasons. It would likely mean we either got significant contributions from guys like Kakko, Chytil/Kravtsov, Howden, Andersson, etc, along with improvement defensively. That means a lot more to me than 8-10 draft spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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